After effects cs3 production premium rendering

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pinakbeth

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I have a question(s) regarding rendering with the CS3 production. I'll try to explain so please try to follow my situation.

I have a sequence from Premier rendering to export to Encore.

In the sequence is a linked AfterEffects composition with huge effects.

When viewing the render details here is what I observed.
It starts up pretty quick for couple seconds but then slows down drastically stating " 84 hours remaining". It has been like that for over an hour.
I stopped it because I only had 10 hours to deliver.

I pre-rendered the effects in AfterEffects then used it in Premeire.
No hang ups.

Question: Is this a bug , normal, or I missed something?

The pre-render in AE took almost an hour. And the Premiere render got hung up at approximately at the time of my AE composition.

Question: Would the time remaining decrease after awhile or should it ramp up and down according to the process?

Appreciate any advise.
Thanks
 
What kind of system do yo have?

I would imagine that kind of thing would be a hell of a strain on a computer, calculating all the AE filters and tweaks, while incorporating Premiere's functions and it's own rendering at once.

Basically running in effect two open CPU intensive programs both rendering.

I don't use premiere much, but I have found that rendering out all of your work from AE as a video file with a losless codec and then simply adding those to the timeline saves a lot of work and hassle. If you want or need changes done to your renders, simply make them, overwrite the originals, and when you open Premiere again, the new ones should be right where the old ones were.
 
If you render from AE as something other than Microsoft DV AVI then PP will have to convert it first and will take considerably longer. When i export as Microsoft DV AVI and bring that into PP my timeline is neither RED OR GREEN it is GREY and never needs rendering unless I add a clip over top. Also AE and PPs render times are aproximations, so if it is chugging through a heavy frame that takes a minute it will increase your estimated time until it hits a faster frame and recalculates the finish time. Usually stuff that it says will take hours to export actually takes way less. The more effects and layers of video you make in PP will slow down the renders, as well as the external link to AE projects. Instead of having just pre-rendered frames to put into a new sequence it is having to render each of those frames.
 
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Core2 Duo Setup

Core2 Duo Setup

I got a
Core2 Duo 5500
Raid 0 harddrives
2 gigs Ram
Vista OS.

AfterEffects compositon was 960 x 720. Needed to be HD and 4:3 ratio


Pre-rendering in AE was the safe route.
I was just wondering about the CS3 Production rendering .

I assumed that CS3 Production was optimized for this situation where I can just rely on its linking to be smooth and fast. Or at least equivalent to as if I were to pre-render all composition in after effects plus the render time in Premiere Pro.

Has anyone done the comparison?

I wasn't going to risk the 84hour estimated time.
Yet alone even wait for more than 2 hours to see if my composition is rendering okay.

I just needed to confirm if I could rely on CS3 Production rendering features.
I had CS2 but never had came upon this scenario.

Thanks again
 
..it should take the same time to render in PPRO using a dynamic linked AE project as it does in stright in AE. it just runs AE's render engine in the background and only uses it when needed. theres really no need to prerender in AE, or render out an intermediate file.. after all thats entirely why dynamic link exists.. to save you the time of haveing to do intermediate renders, or complete prerenders. BUT.. and that a capital but.. if youve added anything in PPRO on top of the linked AE project, such as a mask, or additional effects or fades ect. ..youll have to give it time to crunch the additional things as well. the time youve seen as previously stated is just an estimate base on how long its takeing to render the frame(s) its currently on and how many frames are remaining. once its through the AE comp your time wil take a drastic drop, and it will speed along again. so no need to prerender in AE, you can just render one time for your final output in PPRO and youll save all that intermediate headache.
 
pinakbeth said:
I got a
Core2 Duo 5500
Raid 0 harddrives
2 gigs Ram
Vista OS.

AfterEffects compositon was 960 x 720. Needed to be HD and 4:3 ratio
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For starters, that 2GB RAM is being consumed heavily by Vista (which is a massive memory hog), and isn't leaving much for all your rendering activities. It should also be noted that AE/PP will render quickly until your available RAM is consumed (which in your case isn't much) then the render speed can drop off precipitously.

Second point is that there is no such thing as HD 4:3 aspect ratio. It could be that one of your files (AE or premiere) is set up incorrectly, and is having to scale or otherwise "fix" your project as it renders, which would be a hit to render time as well.
 
BEENYWEENIES said:
For starters, that 2GB RAM is being consumed heavily by Vista (which is a massive memory hog), and isn't leaving much for all your rendering activities. It should also be noted that AE/PP will render quickly until your available RAM is consumed (which in your case isn't much) then the render speed can drop off precipitously.
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Thanks for the tip. I actually sold my computer 2 days ago ., for $1400 with about 10 months factory warranty left.

What I'm putting together now is a dual Xeon Quad . Individual components totals to about $2200 to $2800.

Yep the other day I knew I was underpowered and wanted a dual socket workstation with atleast a quad. So I decided to build one, again. When I discovered the price of an 8 processor setup to be fairly cheap (Self-built compared to pre-built) I didn't hesitate to sell my computer. The new owner was content also.


My goal:

8 core Xeon
6 Sata Drives (Raid 10)
GeForce 8600 GTS 256MB Graph card
720Watt power supply
$1882 @Ewiz.com

Looking for Ram
8 Gig Ram (for now)


Not done shopping for the best prices .Although my total is pending I expect not to exceed $3000.

After that power should not be an issue.



BEENYWEENIES said:
Second point is that there is no such thing as HD 4:3 aspect ratio. It could be that one of your files (AE or premiere) is set up incorrectly, and is having to scale or otherwise "fix" your project as it renders, which would be a hit to render time as well
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You are right about no HD 4:3 ratio, nonetheless I was maintaining the 4:3 ratio so that I could export to SD. Most of my footage and clips were 960x720 .
I did that so I did not have to letter box whenever I export to SD. Letterboxing makes the image smaller on the screen. SD resolution is bad enough.


Thanks
 
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