ADR Question Dilemma

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finklefilms

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If I simply can't control the sound on my set and the set is the main stage for the film would you recommend doing the entire sound in post?

My experience with my last film is we did the entire film ADR and although a lot more time could have been spent working on the
sound it came off kinda fake. The sound was controlled but it just didn't sound real.

Any advice on whether I should mix live recording with ADR/Stick with the live/ or all live?

I am shooting in Taiwan in a very noisy environment, and the location cannot be changed. Any points in the right direction would be most appreciated for this newbie. Thanks.
 
in general, location sound is preferable to adr, unless your dealing with big big budget hollywood stuff where they have the money to do it well.

start by telling us what the noises are, and what the scene is meant to be, and we might be able to find a way to work with it.

is the entire film being shot here?
 
When working in a loud location, you need to get the mic as close as possible and have a few options available (like a short shotgun and a hyper). Try micing 12" away and doing re-takes of the scene to get the sound.
 
Is it a consistent noise like traffic and fountains, or intermittent like planes flying overhead? If it's consistent, then you can make the sound work for you as ambience. You have to be more careful with the mic placement, but it shouldn't be problem to use these tracks as your production sound. If it's intermittent, then I'd focus on getting wild lines after each setup so that you have something that sounds more live than ADR.

I once shot a scene next to a flowing water fountain without having to use ADR, thanks to careful sound editing, wild lines, and ambient recordings of the fountain itself.
 
This is also an example where lavalieres may be a better choice. While they tend to sound more flat, they also tend to pick up less ambient noise.

Phil
 
Thanks all. We are shooting in what is know in Taiwan as a "betel nut stand" which is a glass box surround with neon and traffic whizzing by. Currently we have a shotgun mic and lapels.
 
finklefilms said:
Thanks all. We are shooting in what is know in Taiwan as a "betel nut stand" which is a glass box surround with neon and traffic whizzing by. Currently we have a shotgun mic and lapels.
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That sounds like a very very interesting project.

Can't you mic the girls and owner wirelessly and use "hidden" mics in the shop?

You should have a little room to do it.

Can you tell us more about your project?
 
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