About to capture, first time with 24pA

C Walker

C Walker

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I just want to be sure I have this down correctly:

Easy Setup

Format: NSTC
Rate: 29.97
Use: DV-NTSC

Anything else to set before capture? Anything with Advanced Pulldown Removal?
 
If you shoot in 24pA (as apposed to 24p), it's preferred that you import into a 24p equivalent time line (23.9...whatever frames per second). If you just shoot regular 24p then yes, 29.97fps.

And yes, if in the United States, NSTC is standard.
 
Then, did I read this wrong? I thought it said to use the 29.97 frame rate and set the capture to remove advanced pulldown? I'm using FCP 6, if that makes a difference.

NoahK said:
DVX100 24pA footage should always be captured at 29.97 because that's what's on the tape. When a user wants to cut at 23.98 they need to properly remove the 2:3:3:2 pulldown introduced by the DVX100 during filming. The DVX100 flags these extra frames and embeds these flags into the Firewire data stream. FCP can read these flags back during ingest and conform the 29.97 pulldown footage back to the 23.98 captured by the camera. That is what the Remove Advance Pulldown from 2:3:3:2 sources checkbox in the capture settings is for. But in order to do this properly, the FPS setting in FCP must be set at 29.97 to give FCP the full firewire data stream and allow it to properly recognize the flags and remove the Advance pulldown frames.

If you set the capture FPS at 23.98, FCP will randomly delete frames to get from 29.97 to 23.98 but they will not be the correct frames. You'll wind up with a 23.98 file that looks odd during playback from FCP because the 2:3:3:2 interlaced pulldown frames are still there along with randomly missing progressive frames. This has become the number one issue plaguing FCP users with DVX100 footage who want to cut at 23.98 and has resulted in a lot of confusion. I've hoped to lobby Apple on this issue so that they might include a warning pop-up in FCP giving notice that 23.98 FPS capture will result in improperly digitized DVX100 footage but haven't made any headway and Panasonic hasn't been able to either- maybe you can help with that.

I know it seems counterintuitive that one would use 29.97 as the capture frame rate in order to ingest 23.98 footage but that's how it must be done because of the way the format is recorded to tape.

Noah
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You *always* capture DV material at 29.97 so you get the entire stream off the tape. Then if you want to remain at 29.97- say to mix with standard 24p or 60i material you just edit on a 29.97 timeline.

However- if you want a native 23.98 edit you need to remove the pulldown and convert 29.97 with pulldown to native 24p. In that case you check the remove pulldown from advanced sources box in the capture settings or use the 24p Advanced Easy Setup. That will capture at 29.97 and then remove the pulldown as it captures- yielding 23.98 material you can then edit on a 23.98 timeline.

Noah
 
I think it got it...just noticed if I set Easy Setup to 23.98 a new list of options appears. And I just set it to:

Format: NTSC
Rate: 23.98
Use: DV-NTSC 24p (23.98) Advanced Pulldown Removal

Yes?
 
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