A workflow question regarding Premiere and After effects..

[truehuss]

Just a question regarding workflow:

If I am working in a premiere timeline with a music video and I wanna add effects in AE and I bring the clip into AE. I add my effects and whatnot , am I supposed to render out and then re-import in premiere? I understand thats sounds simple BUT I was under the assumption that every time you render out, you compress and lose quality (which I do NOt want to do)

soooo... My question is, is there a way ( I have the Master collection ) to effect in AE and then somehow get it into premiere without rendering but the efefcts still take effect and I DONT lose quality??

I know its probably a simple answer but I just want to make sure I dont degrade my footage by continous rendering in my workflow..

any help would be appreciated.

I am working on a PC not btw.

 

[Casalen]

Yes. You have to render because Premiere does not know the same things that AE does.

In order to preserve quality, render out uncompressed or with a lossless codec. I don't know if any are built in, but they aren't too hard to find. You only lose quality when you compress to a lossy codec, which is usually. Rendering itself doesn't have to be lossy.

 

[rsbush]

The Master Collection is CS4 right? In that case you don't have to render in AE, just import the composition into Premiere ( File > Import After Effects Composition I think, I'm not at my editing rig). It's as easy as that unless Premiere doesn't recognize a filter you use. If that happens or it's an earlier version of Premiere, render in AE with uncompressed AVI (huge file size) or QT animation.

 

[truehuss]

thanks fellas.. that gives me a starting point.. quick question to either of ya, rbrush if I render out using a QT animation , is that a lossless codec?? does AE have a codec built in thats lossless?

By the way, its CS3 master collection not cs4..

thanks again !

 

[Arson]

thanks fellas.. that gives me a starting point.. quick question to either of ya, rbrush if I render out using a QT animation , is that a lossless codec?? does AE have a codec built in thats lossless?

By the way, its CS3 master collection not cs4..

thanks again !

use QT with the animation codec with compression set to none and you should be golden.

it will bloat it up slightly from your compressed footage you shot.
IE I shoot 50 gigs of 720p footage to edit a music video. The dvcpro codec makes each take of the video (4:30 long) about 1.5 gigs
my edit when exported with the dvcpro codec, or raylight is about 1.5gigs too, when exported. When I export as QT with the animation codec and compression set to none, it becomes about 11 gigs because it is now 4:4:4 color and not 4:2:2 color and there is no compression from the codec.
I work on that in AE for compositing, keying and color correction and then render my final video out from there as a 1.5 gig dvcpro and an 11gig QT/Animation/none file. I then use that 11gig master to encode all my other versions for the web or to go to tape etc etc.

Not a pixel gets compressed in that process beyond the one time it compressed by the camera to record the DVCproHD to the P2 card. I use a 500g SATA drive to flop all my versions of the video around. Working properly with video takes A TON OF HARD DRIVE SPACE.