A-cam dII first footage

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Kay Otto

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With everyboy being happy about Canon, waiting for Red and hoping for Panasonic to make a comeback with m4/3 (their pro-camcorders r still top notch, of cause), people seem to have forgotten about the A-cam dII from Sweden. And quiet franky, after their first announcement well over a year ago not really much happened on their website, until now.
It seems like a couple of weeks ago they shipped their first prototype to Australia. The result of it u may now see on vimeo:

http://vimeo.com/7126893

Quiet nice, although, there is no panning and everything is shot @ 25fps. Still, makes one want to see more.
 
We have now 3 actual videocameras that will hit the market, that have the same ccd technology. As ottis said before, it will be very interesting seeing the propetary software solution for the imager. I expect a very tight competition.

It will all be decided by the artistic interpretation of the engineering. Sound wired but it is. I see no more solution, because after steeping the standards processes, and the fundamentals only comes the interpretation of the whole system itself. And being this a video machine that captures images, the way color is rendered is all by the side of whom did that programing.

That why panasonic is soooo different than sony in its final result. Personally i think that moyo is only adquire by the artistic interpretation of the image itself, this i found interesting because the engineer also becomes an artist.
 
The cameras will be very different also. The A-Cam especially is so different from Drama I can see many people wanting to get both.

Nothing can possibly compete with the A-Cam in weight and portability when a full setup is not required, the form factor and weight is unprecedented for 2/3" on a fully uncompressed format.

The Drama project is focused on a full setup, so we are looking into a much heavier package but this comes with its own strong points. I will post on the Drama thread today on the differences of the two packages.
 
Kay Otto said:
With everyboy being happy about Canon, waiting for Red and hoping for Panasonic to make a comeback with m4/3 (their pro-camcorders r still top notch, of cause), people seem to have forgotten about the A-cam dII from Sweden. And quiet franky, after their first announcement well over a year ago not really much happened on their website, until now.
It seems like a couple of weeks ago they shipped their first prototype to Australia. The result of it u may now see on vimeo:

http://vimeo.com/7126893

Quiet nice, although, there is no panning and everything is shot @ 25fps. Still, makes one want to see more.
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Sun/smear....ouch.
 
i dont know what are the artifacts found at the first bridge right top side of it (00:09 - 00:16), there are some metal holdings i found some with some blue allising, i dont know if it is cromatic aberration due to the lenses, the rendering, or the actual CCD. It is not the only place i found this blue error.
 
It's chromatic aberration. The lens causes it.

EDIT: The visible light filtering and the required white balance could add to the effect in this case.
 
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Even though its revised the blue chromatic aberration is still there. As otis said, its due to the lens. Im surprised by the quality of the images, and we are talking about only beta testing. Good contrast in colors and deep black, no noise, even with the crappy internet compression codec. (not saying is no good, but is for Internet come on).

I would LOVE to see some controlled, studio like, and cine like footage. Interpretation of the camera, no post, just raw controlled settings. That would be grate to analyze.
 
Jonathan Briceño said:
Even though its revised the blue chromatic aberration is still there. As otis said, its due to the lens. Im surprised by the quality of the images, and we are talking about only beta testing. Good contrast in colors and deep black, no noise, even with the crappy internet compression codec. (not saying is no good, but is for Internet come on).

I would LOVE to see some controlled, studio like, and cine like footage. Interpretation of the camera, no post, just raw controlled settings. That would be grate to analyze.
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It's CCD with Kodak bayer filters, what did you expect? :) The entire history of commercial sensors, bayer technology and digital photography workflow involves Kodak and they have experience in both digital and film.

Since it's true raw (not compressed raw) there is only one stage of compression from sensor to distribution. Even the lowest bit rate will look very nice because there is no stacked compression. Codecs are tested and developed with uncompressed input, so they are optimal in this situation.

The samples are great in that they show the only flaw of CCD (smear by sun and car headlights) and none of its advantages (camera motion, shuttering quallity). It's the opposite of what is normally done with preproduction samples and quite refreshing as an approach.
 
Otis Grapsas said:
The samples are great in that they show the only flaw of CCD (smear by sun and car headlights) and none of its advantages (camera motion, shuttering quallity). It's the opposite of what is normally done with preproduction samples and quite refreshing as an approach.
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I TOTALLY AGREE ON YOU WITH THAT OTIS. ITS quiet strange why no heavy motion or shutering have been made, thoug they are indeed CCD advantajes.
 
I believe it's just good marketing sense. A 2/3" full HD progressive CCD recording uncompressed is something most camcorder users are not familiar with. If you keep the expectations at a normal level, the customer will probably be overwhelmed by the purity of the image and the motion quality. The other approach is to promise the world, hiding obvious flaws and let these be discovered by frustrated users on the forums. Things like jello, flickering, etc on the dSLRs that were carefully hidden in the preproduction clips or MPEG motion and detail artifacts in compressed cameras.

In any case, no need to worry, the Kodak CCD is perfect in these departments, like any CCD recorded uncompressed.
 
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