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The episode used: "all the Canon primes, and the 24-70mm and the 70-200mm zoom. The Canon prime lenses used were the EF50mm f/1.2L USM, the EF85mm f/1.2L II USM, and the EF100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM."

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Yeah, I'm editing a trailer for a film shot entirely with the 5D. Honestly would not have guessed it was a DSLR unless I was told.
 
I'm sure it will look impressive on a big HD screen, but the encoding for YouTube is pretty crappy. Lots of banding...... and not too sharp. They should have hired any one of the talented DVXusers in the DSLR section handle the compression.

BTW, is this show ever NOT on Fox? If you turn on Channel 5 during prime time, the odds of seeing it are at least 70%. :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG):Drogar-BigGrin(DBG):Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)
 
I absolutely love these cameras. Been working with them a lot, and once you learn how to get around their issues, they are amazing. I'm shooting every short on them now, as well as a good chunk of the feature I'm currently producing.
 
Gonna go ahead and put my name in the hat for the Gallows: looks bad, to me. Has DSLR "look" painted all over it and I don't think it's because of web compression.

Clearly stands out from other House episodes and not in a good way, looks low-budget in comparison and, as odd as it is to say, it seems that it's because of the way production was morphed because of the camera choice.

There's no weight to any of the camera action (so far) and its shakey--as expected--in an unpleasant fashion.

Have grown a real distaste for these contraptions, but still using them for no-money productions... wish the AF100 would hurry up and get here.
 
Gotta go with Kholi on this, it doesn't look great to me.

I especially do not like the "feel" of the camera. On sticks this would have worked much better, IMO. I am planning on shooting a short with a DSLR this summer, but I hope to avoid some of the "lightness" of the way some of this stuff feels.
 
Hmm...it looks like any other TV show to me. Nothing screams "DSLR footage" or stands out as "tiny camera" (at least from what I see in the lower resolution so far). To some folks it might look different from all of their other episodes...but from what I understand that's what they were going after .....right? I did see an instance where the camera looked like it wobbled though. But I was looking for that. The DP said it was easy to control dynamic range especially since they shot nightime scenes. I hate those micro jitters as much as anyone else...but didn't notice them (maybe HD will help these artifacts stand out more). Anyways....I wonder, seeing how the Scarlet prototypes are smaller (or the same size) as these DSLRs, how much different (besides the obvious) the footage will look? Aside from less wobble I'd expect the same type of "small cam" shakiness. But...that's just my opinion.
 
Kholi said:
Gonna go ahead and put my name in the hat for the Gallows: looks bad, to me. Has DSLR "look" painted all over it and I don't think it's because of web compression.
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I'm gonna call for a stay of execution.

Again, my issue is with how it looks on the web. I watch tons of nice footage/compression that people put on this site......And then the House teaser looks like this??????

Kholi said:
wish the AF100 would hurry up and get here.
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Ian-T said:
Hmm...it looks like any other TV show to me. Nothing screams "DSLR footage" or stands out as "tiny camera" (at least from what I see in the lower resolution so far). To some folks it might look different from all of their other episodes...but from what I understand that's what they were going after .....right? I did see an instance where the camera looked like it wobbled though. But I was looking for that. The DP said it was easy to control dynamic range especially since they shot nightime scenes. I hate those micro jitters as much as anyone else...but didn't notice them (maybe HD will help these artifacts stand out more). Anyways....I wonder, seeing how the Scarlet prototypes are smaller (or the same size) as these DSLRs, how much different (besides the obvious) the footage will look? Aside from less wobble I'd expect the same type of "small cam" shakiness. But...that's just my opinion.
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Honestly, I think the Scarlet stuff is going to be the same. Something that's not very appealing, at least to me. Generally speaking, any time you swap out integrity for convenience, you lose something in the process. It's no different in this very case, you can see just how flimsy the production as a whole looks versus the solid "feel" of any other episode or television show production.

At first, it felt like a blessing. The more I used these things in production, the more I realized how much even the physical structure lacked. And, building it out becomes cumbersome and annoying. Epic is slated to be the same way, sadly. Whenever I use one of those things (which will probably be very soon) I'll be sure to brick it out so that it's at least as heavy as a RED ONE body plus lens.

I'm well aware of the shallow look that the DP wanted to go after, it's not MY show but I'm just as much an audience member as anyone else. No different than saying a feature film that I paid to see looked crap, even with web compression the obvious DSLR look stands out.

Edit here: A lot of people aren't privvy to how creatively stifling it is, as a Director of Photography, to work on a television show. You're doing the SAME exact thing on nearly every episode, the same lighting setup, etc etc. It's MONEY but it's BORING as hell. Even features are the same way. You throw up a typical lighting setup, call it and shoot. Blam. Blah. Done and done. Move on to the next one. Rarely is there an opportunity to break out of the systematic nature of episodic or structural content so, when there's ANY opportunity to do so, you can be sure that the DP is going to be ecstatic as hell to be returning to being creative in any capacity.

I would be out of my mind with excitement if I were in the same position.
 
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I thought it looked just fine. Of course it is going to look different than the other House episodes that were shot on a Panavision or whatever fancy-shmancy movie camera they normally use. Same thing would happen if a show was filmed on a Sony F900 and then they switched to an HVX200 or an EX1. The whole thing becomes a moot point for those of us making an entire short or feature with a DSLR. There is no other camera for it to live up to, unless someone started their film with a different camera then moved to a DSLR.

A good example is Crank and Crank 2. The first one was shot on Sony F900's while the second was shot on Canon XH-A1's and HF10's. I thought the second film actually looked better, and the smaller cameras allowed the directors to shoot it in more crazy and extreme ways. But it definitely looked different from the first film. Of course, a Canon A1 or DSLR might not be the right camera for many other films, just as shooting on 35mm film would've been a hinderance on something like Avatar due to the 3D requirements.

Back to House... I guess I see a bit of the "lightness" in the way some of the tracking shots moved, but again, these DSLR's were not designed for big budget Hollywood TV shows and films. For me, going from normal types of prosumer video cameras (DVX100 / XL-1s / XH-A1) to a DSLR has been really great. I love going back to a small and less conspicuous camera. Reminds me of the days running around with crappy consumer grade video cameras when I started getting into video production and filmmaking. Except now I have a small camera that also shoots kick-arse imagery, and stills to boot. The only major DSLR-related wishes or complaints I have is that I'd like an articulated LCD (as I didn't get a GH1) and a peaking function for focus assist.
 
Anyone notice the jup cut right before he walks into the office? I'm guessing beause they panned up and left too fast and had some jello
 
I just saw the commercial on Fox for Monday's episode and I'll tell ya what..
It looks absolutely amazing compared to the footage I saw on youtube.
great color grading, great sharpness..
 
Well I just watched the episode and it honestly takes a lot to impress me these days...
and I was blown away.

The 5D looked incredible. Best part was there were commercials for feature movies coming out
and the HOUSE footage looked just as good.


Im blown away and I think I might just buy a 5D for the hell of it.
 
Wait, it was on tonight? Oh s***, I missed it. Oh well, they'll probably run it three more times this week when American Idol or Glee isn't on.
 
Yep. I watched it in 1080p and was also blown away. Looked frickin' amazing. I've watched practically every House episode and I can honestly say i've never seen the show look better. It just had a non TV show look that felt much more cinematic...wow.
 
Wish I had been near a TV to catch this.

I asked a non film person whose Facebook status said "Watching House" how this episode looked. His response was, " It looks more realistic, like you are looking at it through the human eye." Thought that was sort of interesting coming from somebody who doesn't care at all about cameras.
 
Batutta said:
Yep. I watched it in 1080p and was also blown away. Looked frickin' amazing. I've watched practically every House episode and I can honestly say i've never seen the show look better. It just had a non TV show look that felt much more cinematic...wow.
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It looked really good but you didn't watch it in 1080P Fox broadcasts 720P. To me it was pretty much the perfect use of DSLRs, it totally served the story they were trying to tell.
 
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