4k TV on the way....

RGBaker said:
As a quick guess, I'd say my big screen spends about an hour a day watching sports -- MLB makes every ball game available in HD, as does the NFL. The NHL makes every game available, though not all in HD -- but they make every game available over the internet, in HD if shot that way, complete with PVR type functions. My cable package includes HD versions of NASCAR, though I've not watched it, and likely NBA too though I'm not a fan. Setanta arrives in HD, and includes rugby and MLS.

I watch a movie a week, also in HD, typically from an on-demand source though occasionally on Blu-Ray,

I watch a couple of hours a week off one of the 'new' broadcasters -- HBO, Showtime, et cetera -- always in HD.

I watch a couple of hours a week of the classic networks -- in HD of course -- NBC, ABC, CBS, CTV, FOX, CBC -- sitcoms & hour long dramas, maybe a touch of reality tv.

Oh, and I watch the local weather, for about 5 minutes a couple of times a week.

So in the grand scheme of things, the fact that my colleagues at the local station (metro pop. 1.2 million) are still working with ten year old DVCPro gear, really doesn't amount to much. 15 hours a week of HD shot & sourced, 15 minutes of local SD ...

Just sayin'

Cheers,
GB
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Lovely illustration of how content is distributed in multiple resolutions, and ultimately end consumers
view in every imagineable resolution.

8K / "Super Hi-vision" is the next established broadcast standard coming (sorry 4K),
and I think there's little NEED to invest in 4K anything other than to satisfy a
temporary business interest mostly generated by Red, Arri (soon), Sony, etc. Corporation A-Z
in search of temporary profit, before 8K arrives

I see the biggest benefit of 8K as being BOTH a stills/motion replacement LONG-TERM that
will temporarily end the resolution race, and allow manufacturers to focus on quality of picture
for a couple of decades.

The super hi-vision broadcast standard is an excellent long-term solution if you have time to read about it...

there are hundreds of posts about it online and videos, just one quick link here
http://www.nhk.or.jp/digital/en/superhivision/
 
Erik Naso said:
I don’t think my home is fibered into it by AT&T. Heck I still get pixelation in HD.
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The pixelation is most likely not your lines, it is the modulation and compression. They currently have to squeeze a HD signal into bandwidth that was meant to carry SD signals. Digital is not like analog... Either you get a perfect picture or you don't get a picture at all, although I will say that there are certain instances in cabling that can introduce noise into your picture. If you look close enough, especially during live broadcasts and fast action shows/movies, there is A LOT of pixelation on television. They managed to squeeze a golfball through a garden hose this time, but when 4k or 8 k or whatever is coming next becomes a reality, they system and the way signals are transmitted and received will most likely have to be redesigned. It's gonna be interesting...
 
Kit Hannah said:
The pixelation is most likely not your lines, it is the modulation and compression. They currently have to squeeze a HD signal into bandwidth that was meant to carry SD signals. Digital is not like analog... Either you get a perfect picture or you don't get a picture at all, although I will say that there are certain instances in cabling that can introduce noise into your picture. If you look close enough, especially during live broadcasts and fast action shows/movies, there is A LOT of pixelation on television. They managed to squeeze a golfball through a garden hose this time, but when 4k or 8 k or whatever is coming next becomes a reality, they system and the way signals are transmitted and received will most likely have to be redesigned. It's gonna be interesting...
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Live sports is the worst. Regular HD programing is fine. I should have made that more clear.

It will be interesting. Huge upgrades for the entire industry.
 
That's cool. But I'd have to see the screen before coming to any conclusions on it. Will it look as a "digital" as LCD screens? Or will it look more organic, like plasma screens? Will be interested in seeing.
 
I can imagine 4k being immediately useful in LG's panels for the Cinema 3D function, which currently halves the resolution to allow for passive 3D. With 4k res, the panel will still show only half resolution when displaying 3D content, but this time it will end up being the full 1080p of the original footage.
 
I think that the digital conversion mandate in the U.S. was so traumatic and expensive for the broadcast "industry" that an entire generation of management will have to retire, get downsized or otherwise acquire collective memory loss to do it again anytime soon. As one poster suggested; the change from HD to 4K might not be as big a step (the acquisition gear seems to be getting cheaper and cheaper), but most people recognize that distribution/broadcast will be a trick. As it stands at the moment there are still significant bottlenecks to HD viewing unless I want to pop a blueray in the tray. 4K is definitely coming, manufacturers have to sell something new. I somewhat expect this thread to devolve into a pi$$ing-match over the superiority of down-converted 4K. :Drogar-Happy(DBG):
 
Personally I think 'circle of confusion' needs to be taught as a basic essential of any imaging/filmmaking course.

There'd be a lot less resolution-chaff to wade through on internet forums.
 
sonuxxx said:
and JVC just released a 4K camera this thing seems awesome http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/features.jsp?model_id=MDL102132&feature_id=01
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Well, the 10x f/2.8 lens seems conservative in specs, so it really might deliver the resolution needed. I'm not a fan of the fact that the 4k acquisition is done on 4 separate cards and played back over 4 cables, seems like too much of a hack job to me.

Also, it's funny that they're marketing it as a "handheld" camera, there's no way you'll get 4k of detail in any one frame while hand-holding this thing.
 
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