480p30 with 720p60 and 720p30

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tylerdlugolecki

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Hello,

I'm having a hard time deciding what timeline I should be using for a particular project. I've had to rip some footage from mastered DVD's which gave me 480x720 30p .VOB files. Most video will be coming from footage I shot with my AC130 though which was 720p60. I also have some MP4's I need to use which were 720p30.

Final export is for web. Should I upconvert the .VOB DVD footage and make a 720 timeline or should I down convert everything else and just live with a DV res final product?

Any help would be great!

Thank you,
Tyler
 
Are you intending to use slow-motion? There's almost no reason to shoot 720p60 outside of that because you can't show it in its native framerate outside of a downloadable file or a Blu-ray disc. All over formats (especially web) will change the framerate to 30p.
 
tylerdlugolecki said:
Hello,

I'm having a hard time deciding what timeline I should be using for a particular project. I've had to rip some footage from mastered DVD's which gave me 480x720 30p .VOB files. Most video will be coming from footage I shot with my AC130 though which was 720p60. I also have some MP4's I need to use which were 720p30.

Final export is for web. Should I upconvert the .VOB DVD footage and make a 720 timeline or should I down convert everything else and just live with a DV res final product?

Any help would be great!

Thank you,
Tyler
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There's no 30p on a DVD. What is this DVD of?

If most of the video is 720, I'd edit on a 720p timeline. If you want to retain the "live" look of the 60p, then make it a 60p timeline and disable resample on the 30p footage. If you want it all to look like 30p, then make it a 30p timeline and disable resample on the 60p footage.
 
Gary Huff said:
Are you intending to use slow-motion? There's almost no reason to shoot 720p60 outside of that because you can't show it in its native framerate outside of a downloadable file or a Blu-ray disc. All over formats (especially web) will change the framerate to 30p.
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Not true; you can convert it to 60i for DVD or tape or whatever and keep the motion rate.
 
I was shooting a lacrosse game hence the 60 frames. Since I'll be uploading to the web it looks like I'll stick with the 720p30 timeline and disable resample on the 720 shots as suggested.

Also, the DVD files I was referring to were interlaced not progressive as I earlier stated. Does this change anything?
 
tylerdlugolecki said:
I was shooting a lacrosse game hence the 60 frames. Since I'll be uploading to the web it looks like I'll stick with the 720p30 timeline and disable resample on the 720 shots as suggested.
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Totally a legitimate use of 60p, but yeah, you'll need to disable resample for the web. Better you are in control of that than YouTube/Vimeo/ect. encoders. Better result.

Also, the DVD files I was referring to were interlaced not progressive as I earlier stated. Does this change anything?
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You'll need to deinterlace since the web is the destination.
 
tylerdlugolecki said:
Also, the DVD files I was referring to were interlaced not progressive as I earlier stated. Does this change anything?
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Of course it was; the only progressive files you can have on a DVD would be 24p.

Now, the question is, what is the content of the DVD video? Need to know how it was shot -- is it normal 60i video? Was it shot as 30p? Was it shot as 24p? All of those things will determine something about how you should proceed with it.
 
The video by the way is a highlight reel for a client's daughter. Lacrosse as I mentioned.

He's given me a few different games on various file formats(DVD's, thumb drives, etc.) Stuff he's had others shoot in the past. I cannot say for sure what the original footage was shot at on the DVD but if I had to guess I would say 720p30 then converted for DVD at 720x480 30i. Can't say for sure though...
 
It if was shot at 30p, then you all you have to do is edit on the 30p timeline you were talking about, and disable resample.
 
You might not have to, but it couldn't hurt. You don't have to do it before you edit; you can do it any time, so you're free to see how it works either way. The only real benefit to doing it before you edit is that you have to do it on more clips after you edit. It doesn't affect editing at all, though.
 
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