35mm adapter Shootout

Great info! THANKS EVERYONE!

I've got an SG35 on order, so I'm waiting to see what Wayne is going to do - since the article says that he's discontinuing it and working on an advanced one.
 
When the new optics come in the sg35 will be much better.

I think it was set up wrong though, cause ive seen lots of footage from it that didnt show thoes gross levels of distortion, and chroma fringing.

oh well i hope not! its coming in the mail any day now.......
 
Hey Norm,

Glad to see you got the article uploaded. Congrats on a thorough, well thought out, and honest review of two products people have looked extensively at. Great job overall.

Jeremy
 
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Good job Norm.


I can't say I was really impressed with either adapter. The SG is totally unuseable with the lack of sharpness it produced. Am I correct in saying it was the adapter and not the lens? The letus looked a lot sharper but the image was way too dark.
 
I'm liking my G35 beta unit more and more now...

Although it too has its share of issues. The adapters all provide a "flashing" effect that brings the blacks up. Crushing them a tad in post and exposing a stop or stop and a half above where you'd normally expose fixes the noise issue, although you always get unhappily close to blowing highlights. The gamma curve/ light response is different with the GG, and different depending on what the GG is made of.
 
Angrius said:
Good job Norm.


I can't say I was really impressed with either adapter. The SG is totally unuseable with the lack of sharpness it produced. Am I correct in saying it was the adapter and not the lens? The letus looked a lot sharper but the image was way too dark.

Yes, it is the adapter, as we used the same lens on both adapters- a Canon 50mm 1.4 lens.
 
seejay1031 said:
Why was the m2 not included in this shootout? It's under $1000.

The M2 is a little over $1,000 now with the lens mount, shipping, etc.

I'm curious to see the Cinemek G35 and Redrock M2 reviewed / compared, once the new, vibrating GG version of the G35 is available.
Those adapters are both in the $1,000-$1,300 range, and might be the best value overall, if the quality is much better than these.

Thanks for the great review!
 
seejay1031 said:
Why was the m2 not included in this shootout? It's under $1000.

Norm can correct me if I'm mistaken on this - since he had direct communication with the various venders.

But we did not test the M2 because the vender was not interesed in supplying us with one. Since we were giving this a lot of our time, we did not want to invest a ton of money buying each of the adapters to just test out and compare. And the M2 was just not interested in it. And as mentioned by R Gale, it is now $1000+
 
Hi Norm,
A very detailed and fair article. Thanks for you time.

However, the softness and distortion in the images confuse me a little, im thinking the distances have been upset via shipping. I will check this out once i receive the unit back.

As Timur says, the SGpro will use higher quality optics, we hope to test next week with the dvx100 and i'll post up footage, we are very excited.
 
I hope you'd be willing to do a sequel. I'd love to enter the Go35 and Go35HD in a shootout sometime in May. I'd be willing and able by that point to send a pair of units out with lenses if need be. Both will be priced well below $1,000.

Thanks for your hard work -- sorry I didn't have anything done in time to participate :(

- jim
 
Hey folks, Ryan just informed me that the article was up.

We'll certainly do a sequel, even if it's only to update this article. Trust me, we want to see this improved as both units we tested are in a way now obsolete. Quyen has already taken some of my feedback & has released the Flip Advanced, which is reported at only having 1.5 stops of light. With that, and the improved GG, and adjustable mirror he's working on, I'm itching to test the new release.

Also, Wayne's taken a couple of my notes & is including those improvements in the SG35 Pro, in addition to all the other things he was already addressing with it. I'm confident that "something" did get adjusted in shipping, as I can't imagine that people have been getting excited about what we experienced with it ... on the flip side, I hoping the new unit ships better, as no one wants to receive a unit that's "shifted" during shipping & experiences issues with.

Setting up the SG35 isn't rocket science, and is actually pretty straight forward, so it wasn't an issue in the set up. Though there were more steps & parts to take into account during set up, vs. the Flip which was litterally just screw it on, attach the lens & you're ready to go.

Also, if we do another test, we'll take some extra time to get the best images possible with it, which may require different camera settings for each unit ... vs. this test where we kept everything on a flat line playing field and simply wanted to see the comparisons between the units for pros & cons, etc.

Glad to hear people are finding it a good read & insightful.
 
bklyndv said:
I hope you'd be willing to do a sequel. I'd love to enter the Go35 and Go35HD in a shootout sometime in May. I'd be willing and able by that point to send a pair of units out with lenses if need be. Both will be priced well below $1,000.

Thanks for your hard work -- sorry I didn't have anything done in time to participate :(

- jim


As Norm said, we'd gladly do a sequel. As for timing, it would have to be after May, as we are focusing our efforts on the DVX Fest. Once that is done, then we could devote the time required to do another shootout.
 
Filmjunkie677 said:
Great article, guys!


Thanks. We had fun testing them out.

And I really enjoy Norm's writting style- he did a great job in coordinating everything and doing the write up.
 
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