30i and 30p mixed

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eofeapr

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Hey all

For an event I have been asked to shoot multicam.

Using Premiere Pro 2.0 and Encore DVD
As for the cams,,, one's my dvx 100b, the others are a panny 1/6 '' 3ccd and a jvc I don't know what cheappy cam.


I'm not sure how these will mix so,,, my thoughts are to keep the cheaper JVC way back in the wide establishing shot neighborhood,,, get a lil bit closer with the panny and selectively editing the best footage with as little motion shot to avoid the jagged edges, and finally work the dvx on all critical shots and audio.

REALLY Need your help deciding on how to best handle the footage.

The Ideal would be to produce it all on a 30p timeline and finish it as progressive video DVD.


thnx in advance
cheers
 
I'm by no means an expert on this, but I believe the only timebase in which you can finish a progressive DVD is 23.976p. Anything that is 29.97 (on DVD, anyway) is going to be interlaced, by nature. You could shoot 30p, but this would be interlaced on export to MPEG-2 in order to be DVD-compliant. You'd have the 30p look, however, at least with the footage from your DVX.

If you really wanted a progressive DVD, you'd have to shoot 24pA with the DVX, and then 60i with the other cameras and process the footage from those cams to be 24p. There's a loooooong thread over on the Adobe Forums right now (pertains to CS3, but would work for PP2, as well) about going 60i > 24p, but it's a pretty convoluted process.

My recommendation: shoot everything in 60i, edit everything in 60i, and finish your DVD as 60i--and make your life easy. That's what I'd do, anyway...
 
i had a project with prem pro 1.5 that mixed 24p and 60i. Since the 24p footage wouldn't play properly in a 60i timeline (obviously), the work around was to import the 24p footy into prem 6.5 and export it as and avi, then import the avi file of the 24p footage into prem pro 1.5......
 
why? well it played, but it was pretty glitchy, flickery or something along those lines.....its been a year since I went through that ordeal, whatever the case the footage looked really bad and was unacceptable. try it, i'm not sure how it will play out in cs3 but i'm pretty sure that if you play 24p in a 29.97 time line its gonna be lookin like sheeat
 
cbrougham said:
I'm by no means an expert on this, but I believe the only timebase in which you can finish a progressive DVD is 23.976p. Anything that is 29.97 (on DVD, anyway) is going to be interlaced, by nature. You could shoot 30p, but this would be interlaced on export to MPEG-2 in order to be DVD-compliant. You'd have the 30p look, however, at least with the footage from your DVX.
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well in 30p I defenitely see better results when I burn and play back on home TV/DVD
No combed edges, no jitters, does look more saturated though but an easy fix, just lower color temp in cam
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If you really wanted a progressive DVD, you'd have to shoot 24pA with the DVX, and then 60i with the other cameras and process the footage from those cams to be 24p. There's a loooooong thread over on the Adobe Forums right now (pertains to CS3, but would work for PP2, as well) about going 60i > 24p, but it's a pretty convoluted process.
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this'll be huge in the future when I'm stuck with mixed modes again
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My recommendation: shoot everything in 60i, edit everything in 60i, and finish your DVD as 60i--and make your life easy. That's what I'd do, anyway...
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priceless,,, thanks
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Sorry for the veery late response but am now looking back a week or two with my coffee. Have to say thanks for all the responses. I value all the advice, coming from you kids it is gold to me and a testament to your generous nature.

I have to admit this is a more diverse topic than most as it really can get quite convoluted. ( if I may borrow the phrase )

thank you all for the help as the video is looking good enouogh for this client and project a finish in 7 to 10 days.

joe
 
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