2D Films Converted to 3D (like imax)
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seejay1031
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It is possible. It requires the film to be separated into unique spacial layers which can be arranged in AE's 3d space (This could take weeks for each shot if you are starting from a single 2d source, requiring rotoscoping on top of rotoscoping as well as replacement cloning) Then it's a fairly simple task of adding 2 cameras to the comp and offset them slightly left and right. Then add the 3d glasses filter to a solid and pick the the respective cameras as the right and left view. At this point you could render to the classic red blue image which any old school 3d glasses can use... or you could render out the separate perspectives and have some post house convert to whatever 3d format that you want.
It should be noted that this technique gives the cards in space or 2.5D effect. Which can look quite impressive but defies true 3d realism.
It should be noted that this technique gives the cards in space or 2.5D effect. Which can look quite impressive but defies true 3d realism.
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Matt Grunau
Adobe Demigod
What he said. For the time and effort it would take to try and fake it, which would also result in nasty colorizing and other inconsistant artifacting, you would be better off shooting with two cameras.
armisiano
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True. But, it also depends on what the project is. If it's animated for instance, your situation changes. With the release of Disney's "Meet The Robinsons" in 3D, before the feature would start, they showed a classic Disney cartoon short (the one I saw was with Donald Duck and Chip & Dale) made to be 3D. Now it wasn't exactly TRUE 3D, but they managed to arrange the picture in several layers and it worked out pretty well.
Matt Grunau
Adobe Demigod
Yes, but that's not video. I'm sure Disney has old celluloid frames and or stock of original cartoons. In that case, building a new movie with the layers spaced along the z axis would be a breeze. That kind of look is all over the History channel and whatnot done with old photos all the time. It really makes them more dramatic.
Doing it with video however, is a totally separate thing, and we (99.999% of us) don't have Disney's rescorces either.
I will look into the Donald Duck cartoons for sure.
armisiano
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I don't know where YOU live, but I just so happen to own half a dozen major theme parks and several motion picture & animation studios. I'm fine. What's your problem?
Oh wait, nevermind, I'm a jacka**. Have a nice day.
Matt Grunau
Adobe Demigod
I don't know where YOU live, but I just so happen to own half a dozen major theme parks and several motion picture & animation studios. I'm fine. What's your problem?
Oh wait, nevermind, I'm a jacka**. Have a nice day.
Ha! But how many of them will allow you use their systems? If any, lemme know, I have some stuff I would like to try.
rogar-BigGrin(DBG)
Matt Grunau
Adobe Demigod
I don't live in Sand Diego, but I am sure there are people who live near you. Try putting a thread in the Jobs section. That gets LOTS of views.
If you try it, won't you have to have the cameras perfectly synched? How would you do that, or is it a simple thing like running a cord between the two and when you press record on one, they both start?
And how would you display it? With the red and blur color shift or with a method of using something like LCD glasses set up for each lens to go dark for each eye at the right time many times per second?
armisiano
Veteran
It's simpler than that. Thanks to the power of editing (mild sarcasm, sorry), it doesn't matter if the cameras start at the exact same time, just that in post we sync up the footage. As long as the cameras are directly side by side and pointed/focused on the same object it's a synch. It would be separated into a red channel for one eye, and the green and blue for the other, then the images composed together through simple layering. Pop on the old fashioned Red/Blue 3D glasses and you have it.
Now modern 3D is done through a much more amazing process using polarized glasses and a whole bundle of technology we can't touch. But for the fun of it I don't mind rockin' the old school 3D. Of course with this setup you couldn't really do any follow focusing or moving shots (unless they were both on the same dolly or something of the like). But again, it would be fun.
Now modern 3D is done through a much more amazing process using polarized glasses and a whole bundle of technology we can't touch. But for the fun of it I don't mind rockin' the old school 3D. Of course with this setup you couldn't really do any follow focusing or moving shots (unless they were both on the same dolly or something of the like). But again, it would be fun.
Anhar_Miah
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Guys, why make your life hard, want to shoot 3d, go use a 3DVX (thats two DVX coupled together)
http://www.21stcentury3d.com/press/pr-050209-3dvx2.html
http://www.21stcentury3d.com/press/pr-050209-3dvx2.html
armisiano
Veteran
Yes, because somehow it would be easier for me to go to New York and rent one of these for a day to have a little fun.
Wait.
No.
I think I'll stick with my solution of staying in southern california and playing around with my DVX for an afternoon.
If ever I pursue SERIOUSLY wanting to make a 3D film, I'll look into other options, but for me most of the fun comes from doing things myself, WITHOUT emptying my pockets too d*mn much. I'm a waiter for god's sake. I don't make much money.
Anhar_Miah
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Hey its just a suggestion I never said it was a cheap though..
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Of course if you *want* to do it yourself, and for "free" then one option would be to do it in CG, now thats true 3d, but you have to learn it by yourself.
I never said it was a cheap though..EDIT:
Of course if you *want* to do it yourself, and for "free" then one option would be to do it in CG, now thats true 3d, but you have to learn it by yourself.