29.97 or 23.98?

Jet Nine

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What are the pros and cons of cutting in 29.97 or 23.98 in FCP?

Does it make any difference?
 
Match your timeline to your footage. Any other way will torpedo its quality, because it'll have to be interpolated to fit.
 
Yeah- that's it- you need to match the sequence frame rate to the media frame rate. i.e. edit what you shot at. Otherwise it will not look right.

Noah
 
Unless you did it specifically for slo-mo, but you will have made the footage 23.98 beforehand anyway.
 
99.9% of the time if David Jimerson or NoahK say something that is any way contrary to my 2 cents, that I make during render or export free time, go with what they said (99.997% if Barry Green says it).

Also if you have a modern version of FCP you can let it find the correct settings by dragging your footage into a new timeline and clicking yes when it asks if you want to change the sequence settings to match your footage.
 
The main question is what do you want to shoot your footage at? 23.98 has a film look. 59.94 video look.

Keep in mind
1) 23.98 takes up less space
2) less render space
3) taxes your computer less do to less frames it has to play

In my opinion it is better, but then again depends on what format you want to shoot. Also 23.98 will do many different conversions easily in terms of hardware decks, where as 59.94 won't always jive.
 
That's not really the main question here.

The frame rate at which you shoot your footage is 100% an aesthetic choice. If you're deciding to shoot a particular frame rate for engineering reasons, you're probably on the wrong path.

Shoot what you want to shoot in order to make your project look the way you want it to shoot. When it comes time to edit, match your timeline to your footage. Serve your art first, then worry about the technical details in achieving it.

(The only caveat to this is the choice between 24p standard and 24pA -- but you only have to worry about that if you want 23.976 for aesthetic reasons, because they're the same frame rate; they're just recorded differently. Make the frame rate decision first, THEN worry about 24pA.)
 
That's not really the main question here.

The frame rate at which you shoot your footage is 100% an aesthetic choice. If you're deciding to shoot a particular frame rate for engineering reasons, you're probably on the wrong path.

Shoot what you want to shoot in order to make your project look the way you want it to shoot. When it comes time to edit, match your timeline to your footage. Serve your art first, then worry about the technical details in achieving it.

(The only caveat to this is the choice between 24p standard and 24pA -- but you only have to worry about that if you want 23.976 for aesthetic reasons, because they're the same frame rate; they're just recorded differently. Make the frame rate decision first, THEN worry about 24pA.)
He never said anything about 24p or 24pA. Especially with a Canon because a canon DSLR only shoots 23.98, 59.94 or 29.97 (non 24p) 29.97 for the DSLR is true video. You are thinking in terms of a DVX or HPX but your answer does not apply to his question. He asked simply 29.97 or 23.98 without a mention of 24p or 24pA.

59.94 on a Canon 60d or 7d is not recommended except to do slow motion by throwing that into a 23.98 timeline after conforming with cinema tools. The Canon has too many issues with moire at 59.94, in fact it gets worse than 23.98 on the Canons. Do a search on the 7d forums and look up "59.94 should I shoot?"

Also I wrote
The main question is what do you want to shoot your footage at? 23.98 has a film look. 59.94 video look.

and you wrote
That's not really the main question here. The frame rate at which you shoot your footage is 100% an aesthetic choice. If you're deciding to shoot a particular frame rate for engineering reasons, you're probably on the wrong path.

Didn't I say the same thing? Maybe you can clear these things up. Thanks in advance.
 
He never asked about what to shoot, only how to edit it.

But if you're going to decide which frame rate to shoot, it's an aesthetic choice. I'd say if your camera doesn't shoot the frame rate you want very well, you should use a different camera.

The post, by the way, was for general informational purposes, and I included 24p vs. 24pA only because those who are reading it -- which might be a lot of people -- may have found it confusing otherwise. This is about FCP, so 24p vs. 24pA really matters.
 
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