My question is this; if you have Vegas 5 and you have no camera that can record 24p, but is a DV camera can Vegas 5 mimick 24p within its designed software program in order to give you a desire results through a conversion technique within theVegas software program? I am trying for the film look without using the 100X camera by panasonic and with out using those dreaded plug ins. Does anyone have the answer?
24p in Vegas
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James Gerber
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I'm still not 100% sure... but we touched on this a few posts ago:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=36968
j
http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=36968
j
Yes. You can convert 60i to 24p using Vegas. The results are pretty acceptable.
However, there are a few things to keep in mind. When people are unaware of the following caveats, they often just think either the conversion process or 24p itself is crap, but in reality it's just different characteristics and behaviors, and also a compromise involved with converting one type of footage to another.
As it's conversion and not native acquisition, the results will not be as good as if you had shot in 24p to begin with. You can lose up to half of your vertical resolution by doing this. It will be apparent in some scenes more than others, if you have a lot of motion.
Also, if you're converting to 24p, you have to shoot like you're shooting 24p, with slow pans, slow zooms . . . s l o w. Converting to 24p will cause the footage to take on all of the motion characteristics of 24p or 24fps film, and that includes what could be an unpleasant "strobiness" if you move the camera too quickly. This won't be apparent while you're shooting in 60i, so be careful.
To do it manually in Vegas 5, do these things.
Drop the 60i clip onto a 24p timeline.
Go into project properties and choose the deinterlace method -- "blend fields" or "interpolate fields." If you have a lot of motion, choose "interpolate." If you don't, choose "blend," and you will preserve more of the vertical resolution.
Right-click on the clip and choose "properties." Then, select the "disable resample" radio button. This step probably isn't necessary, but it doesn't hurt.
Then, render out as an AVI. You can render out uncompressed at the default setting and it will give you a 24p clip. Or, if you want to share it or edit it in another editor, you can choose the NTSC DV 24p template and pick your pulldown scheme, either 2:3 or 2:3:3:2. The latter is recommended for further editing. Any of those options, though, can be edited by Vegas in native 24p.
Or, and I know you said you didn't want "dreaded" plugins, but Celluloid (see my sig) makes the converstion literally as easy as a mouse click. No reason to dread it, and you get a set of excellent film looks paks with it. Just a thought. It really is a snap.
Either way you do it, be sure to do your conversion before you try any color correction or add any effects.
However, there are a few things to keep in mind. When people are unaware of the following caveats, they often just think either the conversion process or 24p itself is crap, but in reality it's just different characteristics and behaviors, and also a compromise involved with converting one type of footage to another.
As it's conversion and not native acquisition, the results will not be as good as if you had shot in 24p to begin with. You can lose up to half of your vertical resolution by doing this. It will be apparent in some scenes more than others, if you have a lot of motion.
Also, if you're converting to 24p, you have to shoot like you're shooting 24p, with slow pans, slow zooms . . . s l o w. Converting to 24p will cause the footage to take on all of the motion characteristics of 24p or 24fps film, and that includes what could be an unpleasant "strobiness" if you move the camera too quickly. This won't be apparent while you're shooting in 60i, so be careful.
To do it manually in Vegas 5, do these things.
Drop the 60i clip onto a 24p timeline.
Go into project properties and choose the deinterlace method -- "blend fields" or "interpolate fields." If you have a lot of motion, choose "interpolate." If you don't, choose "blend," and you will preserve more of the vertical resolution.
Right-click on the clip and choose "properties." Then, select the "disable resample" radio button. This step probably isn't necessary, but it doesn't hurt.
Then, render out as an AVI. You can render out uncompressed at the default setting and it will give you a 24p clip. Or, if you want to share it or edit it in another editor, you can choose the NTSC DV 24p template and pick your pulldown scheme, either 2:3 or 2:3:3:2. The latter is recommended for further editing. Any of those options, though, can be edited by Vegas in native 24p.
Or, and I know you said you didn't want "dreaded" plugins, but Celluloid (see my sig) makes the converstion literally as easy as a mouse click. No reason to dread it, and you get a set of excellent film looks paks with it. Just a thought. It really is a snap.
Either way you do it, be sure to do your conversion before you try any color correction or add any effects.