2:3:3:2 capture and editing?

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King Rudi

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Hey guys,

Does anyone know the correct workflow for capturing and editing 2:3:3:2 in Premiere? I can't find anything useful on the net. I tried to capture straight, then drag a clip onto "new item" and export as 24Pa. It came out like twice the speed and jumpy!:shocked:

Will appreciate it if anyone can describe their workflow or maybe point me in a direction to find one.

Thank you!
Rudi
 
Just capture. Premiere will take care of the pulldown when you the put the footage on a 24p timeline. It doesn't make you jump through any hoops, and it works with 2:3:3:2 pulldown as well as 2:3 pulldown. You do not have to re-export anything.
 
Every 5th frame IS interlaced with 2:3:3:2 pulldown (24pA).

As for why it's "jumpy and fast," don't know -- what happened when you dragged the clip to "new item"?
 
Not by exporting with pulldown. That's what you do when you export as 24pA.

You want to export straight, progressive 23.976.

As for why it made the footage all wonky, well, I just don't think Premiere handles 24pA encoding very well. But there's never really a practical reason to do it, anyway.
 
But why would so many people recommend 2:3:3:2? The footage looks extremely bad, when I shot 2:3 it looked fine:( It's really bad quality. Are you sure there is not a specific workflow for 2:3:3:2 with regards to capturing etc?
 
They recommend shooting 2:3:3:2 because it's designed for easy removal of pulldown for editing. But you almost never want to export using it. It's not a good pattern for watching footage; it's only good for editing footage. As far as quality goes, it's exactly the same as 2:3.

I assume you're not seeing a problem on the timeline, right? The problem comes when you export. What are you wanting to do with the footage once you export? Chances are, there's no reason to have any pulldown at all when you export, just straight 23.976 progressive. The only time you'd ever want to export using 2:3:3:2 is if you're sending what you export off to someone else for editing, and even then, there are usually better options.
 
I tried putting it on a 29.97 timeline and exporting as NTSC, that seems fine with playback, but that will probably look horrible on a DVD player (from past experience). Flip, why is this so confusing.... So basically, I should be editing on a 24p timeline and exporting as standard AVI NTS with the "remove pulldown" checked? Huh, I tried it again now and it looks fine? Something tells me I'm not cut out for video editing ha ha, sigh.... Thanks so much for helping me though:)
 
It is by far better to export a DVD-compliant MPEG-2 at 23.976 than to let Encore do the transcoding from an AVI.

You can also import Premiere sequences directly into Encore, but I'm always (always) more comfortable rendering the MPEG-2 file myself.
 
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