16:9 anamorphic adaptor smaples and specs?

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I have searched and can't find anything. I'd like to know how the anamorphic adaptor perform, either screen grab or uncompressed 24p avi would help. Also, can't find the specs anywhere either, such as weight and size?
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Re: 16:9 anamorphic adaptor smaples and specs?

This is cool, thanks for the info...
 
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Barry, would you say that the difference between the lens vs. squeeze mode is worth the $800? That is, viewing on (HD)TVs 60" and under...

I will be shooting a feature film soon that will probably be viewed only on DVD and was considering this lens.
 
Re: 16:9 anamorphic adaptor smaples and specs?

Well, that's a tough call. Like I've said before, shooting with the anamorphic involves many compromises, but the one place you don't compromise is in picture quality. Squeeze mode demands no compromises except one: picture quality.

If having a full-resolution native 16:9 image is what you need, the anamorphic is the only way to get it. But there are a lot of compromises involved in using it.

The difference shows up the bigger the screen you show it on. For a 60" TV or below, you may find squeeze mode satisfactory. I know that on a 9" TV and below, I couldn't see any difference. But on an HDTV, any difference will be magnified. In the best case, the anamorphic gives a significantly sharper picture. I saw it on a 38" HDTV, but I haven't seen a side-by-side on a 60" TV.

So, give squeeze mode a try, and take it to Best Buy or whatever and see what you think (although that's usually a lousy kind of place to test, their TV's are frequently horribly miscalibrated, etc). But any testing is better than no testing...
 
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But there are a lot of compromises involved in using it.
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I know the compromises, but my film will take place in a home for 90% of its run-time. Very controlled. (plus, still hoping Cinetactics makes that Matteblox for it)

Also, I own a calibrated 50" HDTV and I've been shooting all my tests in squeeze mode, then putting it to an anamorphic DVD. It looks pretty good, and I'd probably be happy with that...but not knowing what extra detail the lens brings out is what keeps me questioning.

Is there a place that sells the lens with a decent return policy?
 
Re: 16:9 anamorphic adaptor smaples and specs?

Try calling up a rental house and asking if they rent lenses. Good chance they do.
 
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Doesnt the 16:9 also give you a wide angle incremet over the squeeze . . . I realy appriciate the 21mm that I now have!
 
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Hm, I'm a bit confused about the specifications posted on this webpage describing the anamorphic lens adapter's properties. it says that at max zoom, the object must be at least 3 meters away from the camera for it to be focus-able. But what about when it isn't at full zoom (or z90 for the adapter), how hard is it to focus then?
 
Re: 16:9 anamorphic adaptor smaples and specs?

Uh oh . . . the anamorphic adapter bug just hit me . . . the one which will nag me until I have it . . . and I have two DVXs to put it on . . . siiiigh . . . another $1600 . . .
 
Re: 16:9 anamorphic adaptor smaples and specs?

[quote author=nguyen d nguyen link=board=Links;num=1084420413;start=0#9 date=05/15/04 at 15:54:19]But what about when it isn't at full zoom (or z90 for the adapter), how hard is it to focus then?[/quote]

Depends on your f-stop and distance to subject. You can focus quite sharply right down to the surface of the lens if you're at full-wide-angle.

The focus difficulties come in the way of the astigmatism, which is only really problematical at full zoom.

Even so, it's highly recommended to use an external high-resolution CRT to see exactly what you're getting -- the LCD is not enough resolution to tell you for sure.
 
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[quote author=Barry_Green link=board=Links;num=1084420413;start=0#11 date=05/15/04 at 17:25:23]

Depends on your f-stop and distance to subject.  You can focus quite sharply right down to the surface of the lens if you're at full-wide-angle.

The focus difficulties come in the way of the astigmatism, which is only really problematical at full zoom.

Even so, it's highly recommended to use an external high-resolution CRT to see exactly what you're getting -- the LCD is not enough resolution to tell you for sure.[/quote]

So, let's say i had a really nice quality production monitor that is switchable between 16:9 and 4:3, properly calibrated. As long as I keep it equal or above z10 and equal or under z90, I should be okay? No weird distortion? Focus-able (even if a bit difficult?)? sorry, for the thoroughness ... just that this lens is a might expensive adapter (850 for some glass and plastic??) and I want to be sure it'll work for me (I'm going to be shooting pretty much all in-doors under controlled lighting).
 
Re: 16:9 anamorphic adaptor smaples and specs?

Yes, it should work perfectly for you under those circumstances. And focus will be rather easy if you have a high-res CRT. It's just tough to truly gauge focus on the small camera LCD, but with a decent-sized (13" or so) 500+ line 16:9 production monitor, it would be as easy to grab focus on that as it would be to use the DVX without the anamorphic.
 
Re: 16:9 anamorphic adaptor smaples and specs?

Ooooh, here comes a dumb question from a guy who is still waiting for his precious (don't beat me, don't beat me, be nice to JanBee):

Barry (or others), if focusing is way more tricky with the anamorphic: I thought there is this nice feature (I don't know how its called) that kinda puts a white edge around all objects that are exactly in focus... or is this a feature of the 100A model only? Or am I as confused as I usually am? Or is this feature not working (why?) with the anamorphic?

Could it be, that your concerns about focusing with the anamorphic are only valid for the 100 and not the 100A model?

(don't beat me, don't beat me) ::)
 
Re: 16:9 anamorphic adaptor smaples and specs?

That "peaking" feature is only applicable to the 100A. I don't know if it would work with the anamorphic, although I kind of doubt it. Autofocus doesn't work properly with the anamorphic (because autofocus focuses only on the verticals, whereas with the anamorphic the verticals and horizontals focus on different planes and successful focusing usually involves the best compromise). I don't know whether the "peaking" feature would be aware of that or not, I suspect not.
 
Re: 16:9 anamorphic adaptor smaples and specs?

[quote author=Barry_Green link=board=Links;num=1084420413;start=0#13 date=05/16/04 at 14:55:17]Yes, it should work perfectly for you under those circumstances.  And focus will be rather easy if you have a high-res CRT.  It's just tough to truly gauge focus on the small camera LCD, but with a decent-sized (13" or so) 500+ line 16:9 production monitor, it would be as easy to grab focus on that as it would be to use the DVX without the anamorphic.[/quote]

Cool, i'm getting a 13 inch production monitor with 600 lines from b&h along with the adapter. Looking forward to it.
 
Re: 16:9 anamorphic adaptor smaples and specs?

oh, i forgot to ask. if the footage is blown up to 35mm film, and if you are slightly out of focus during production viewing on a production monitor (let's just say, 13''), how noticeable is the out-of-focus blur on the big screen?
 
Re: 16:9 anamorphic adaptor smaples and specs?

Depends on how close you're sitting to the screen. ;)

Seriously, focus errors will be magnified proportionally to how large the exhibition screen is. So if you were viewing on a 13" monitor and it looks out of focus, by the time you get to a 40' movie screen it will be 40 times more out of focus.

This is one reason why film DP's will insist on seeing their dailies projected on film, rather than video dailies: you simply cannot see details like focus error on that tiny screen, you need to see it in its fully-projected format to know what you're getting.

Everything will be magnified -- you'll have an inherently shallower DOF on the big screen because the slightly-out-of-focus background (on TV) will now be a much-more-out-of-focus background (on the big screen).

So if you're shooting for the big screen, you'd better get it right. Zoom in, open up the iris to all-the-way-open, and try to get pinpoint focus. Then zoom back out, stop the lens down to your shooting aperture, and you should be okay.
 
Re: 16:9 anamorphic adaptor smaples and specs?

This website should be called
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;D You're priceless Barry, thanks for all the info! ;D
 
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