16:9 & 4:3 FOOTAGES MIXED IN VEGAS

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Please someone help me to provide an answer as how to mix two type of footages and output to DVD. I know I need a widescreen monitor in order to have the 16:9 looked right on screen. I will crop the 4:3 footage to have the look of 16:9. Should I stick to normal NTSC setting for my editing?
Should I buy a software that can stretch or squeeze either the 16:9 or 4:3 footages?
I am really lost. Please help. Thanks
 
Re: 16:9 & 4:3 FOOTAGES MIXED IN VEGAS

I'm no Vegas Guru, but what I would to is create a new project with the NTSC Widescreen template, then in the Pan/Crop settings for the 4:3 clips, use the 16:9 Aspect Ratio template. You'll lose some resolution, but that's the best way in Vegas to mix the two types into a 16:9 video.

I hope this helps.
 
Re: 16:9 & 4:3 FOOTAGES MIXED IN VEGAS

First things first -- what do you plan to do with the finished product?
 
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Thank you for the quick response, David.

The footages are from wedding shot-one from DVX-100a and the other is sony vx-2000.
My finished product is to have it on widescreen DVD if possible. Otherwise, I may output it on regular NTSC DVD with modification of the original footages, whichever works. Thanks.

Van De Ha
 
Re: 16:9 & 4:3 FOOTAGES MIXED IN VEGAS

[quote author=identity link=board=Vegas;num=1099986967;start=0#1 date=11/09/04 at 05:58:19]I'm no Vegas Guru, but what I would to is create a new project with the NTSC Widescreen template, then in the Pan/Crop settings for the 4:3 clips, use the 16:9 Aspect Ratio template.  You'll lose some resolution, but that's the best way in Vegas to mix the two types into a 16:9 video.

I hope this helps.[/quote]

I have a question, is there any resolution difference between shooting at 4:3 and then cropping to 16:9 with Pan/Crop in post as oppose to shooting squeeze? I've been shooting 4:3 with my lcd screen masked to 16:9 and then cropping in post.
 
Re: 16:9 & 4:3 FOOTAGES MIXED IN VEGAS

Depends on how you crop it in post. Vegas' stretching is pretty good, but I don't think it's as good as Squeeze mode in-camera. However, there's a lengthy thread by disjecta on this board that talks about stretching in post using PhotoZoom Pro, which should be quite a bit better results than stretching using Vegas.
 
Re: 16:9 & 4:3 FOOTAGES MIXED IN VEGAS

Thanks, Barry.

I had purchased your book & DVD. When I receive your material and read them, I may not have to post all these silly questions.
Anyway, as to my understanding, I don't have to do anything to the 16:9 footage that were shot on anamorphic adapter DVX-100a.
I need to stretch the 4:3 footage that was shot on Sony VX-2000 by using Photozoom Pro in the post (I have read all threads posted by disjecta, which are very helpfull.)
In Vegas editting, I have to create new project with NTSC widescreen template as suggested by "identity".
On final product output to DVD, my video should have the look of widescreen with a black bar on top and bottom of a normal NTSC TV. However, my video should fill out the full screen when played on a widescreen HDTV.
Are all steps above the correct way to go? Thanks.
 
Re: 16:9 & 4:3 FOOTAGES MIXED IN VEGAS

As “New Guy” said, you can edit in an NTSC Widescreen project, and crop the 4:3 footage with the pan/crop tool 16:9 preset.

However, there will then likely be a stark quality difference between your DVX anamorphic footage and your VX-2000 footage, especially when viewed on a high-quality 16:9 HDTV.

Another option is to leave the 4:3 footage uncropped, and allow the pillarboxing on either side. Either way, you compromise, but at least you can figure out which way you’d rather compromise.

You don’t NEED to use Photozoom Pro, but it can yield better results for cropping the 4:3 footage.

Then, output as MPEG-2 for DVD Architect, NTSC Widescreen. Choose an NTSC Widescreen project in DVD-A and the DVD will then be anamorphic and will behave as you describe.
 
Re: 16:9 & 4:3 FOOTAGES MIXED IN VEGAS

Van De Ha, yes, all those steps seem correct. The only thing I would add is, when you edit anamorphic adapter footage in Vegas, you'll have to go in and manually change the "pixel aspect ratio" on all the anamorphic clips to be "ntsc dv widescreen". Otherwise it may not look right.
 
Re: 16:9 & 4:3 FOOTAGES MIXED IN VEGAS

Thank you all for your helps.

To Barry,
In specific, where in Vegas that I can manually change "Pixel aspect ratio" as to "ntsc dv widescreen" if the footages already have been captured?
 
Re: 16:9 & 4:3 FOOTAGES MIXED IN VEGAS

In the media pool, right-click on the clips and go to "properties". There will be a drop-down box for pixel aspect ratio.
 
Re: 16:9 & 4:3 FOOTAGES MIXED IN VEGAS

Never mind, Barry.

I found the property of each clip to change aspect ratio to dv widescreen. Well, the terrible news is that I have to manually change property of aspect ratio for each clip, more than 600 clips that were shot in anamorphic adapter dvx-100a. I better get to work.Thanks.
 
Re: 16:9 & 4:3 FOOTAGES MIXED IN VEGAS

I've never found a way to do it to more than one clip at a time, but I bet there's a way.

You might send a private message to Spot or Gary Kleiner or David Jimerson, to see if they know how to change the aspect ratio for multiple clips at once. I bet you could do it through scripting or something like that!
 
Re: 16:9 & 4:3 FOOTAGES MIXED IN VEGAS

I'm not sure about that -- I'll have to research. What you CAN do, though, once you have the anamorphic clips on the widescreen timeline, right click on one of them, select "properties," and UN-check "maintain aspect ratio." Then, right-click the clip again, copy it, select all of the other anamorphic clips, right click on one, and select "paste event attributes."

Now, do this before you apply any effects, because EVERYTHING about that first clip will be applied to all of the others.
 
Re: 16:9 & 4:3 FOOTAGES MIXED IN VEGAS

[quote author=Barry_Green link=board=Vegas;num=1099986967;start=0#12 date=11/09/04 at 15:12:37]I've never found a way to do it to more than one clip at a time, but I bet there's a way.

You might send a private message to Spot or Gary Kleiner or David Jimerson, to see if they know how to change the aspect ratio for multiple clips at once.  I bet you could do it through scripting or something like that![/quote]

I've been wondering about the same. I bet there must be a script out there somewhere.

BTW - does Vegas have script recording feature? I mean somthing that would let me do a bunch of actions, dump them to a JS file and then modify it to suit my needs? If not, that would be great addition to the product (even though I HATE JS - long live Smalltalk! ;D )
 
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