HD Monitor versus HDTV

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Bono

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Am I crazy? It seems like when I playback footage on my Sharp Aquos LCD TV, it looks better than when I play it on an LCD computer monitor...I can't tell if it's better simply because it's bigger (32" LCD HDTV versus 23" LCD Monitor), or if it really does look cleaner.
 
This is totally right (given that you have an ok TV)

TV's and computer screens are different beasts alltogether, and unless you have a Dacklink Card with HD-Link or something along that line - the computer monitor is basically useless as a monitoring device for video

Gunleik
 
Even the "Apple HD Cinema Display"? How is a 30" LCD Apple display different from a 32" HDTV?
 
Whilst it is true that CRTs use different colour phosphors, different decay time designs and usually different handling of interlace if they are 'computer' and not 'tv' ... I have never heard that LCD displays are made differently depending on their target. In fact many are 'cross purpose' models with no firm distinction between computer or TV usage.

Do you have any evidence that a model such as the Samsung 244MP is better at one than the other, for instance?

GB
 
Just had a conversation with a salesman at an Apple Store and am even more confused. He explains that the 30" Apple Cinema Display has 300% more resolution than my Sharp LCD HDTV at home. It is essentially 2 x 23" Displays in a 30" case. It has higher resolution than a 1080 HD signal and therefore may look WORSE than an HDTV...

Uh...can someone help out here? What is the best full screen "client monitor" for an HD edit system? HD CRT is way too expensive. My 32" Aquos is half the price of a 30" Apple Cinema Display...
 
i've been EXTREMELY confused on this as well. i have the dell 24" lcd down on my budget, but i'm not totally sold on it.
 
I've been wondering the same thing. I'm looking into getting a second monitor for watching the final product in Premier while I'm editing. However, later this year I'm going to be shooting HD footage (HD100U) and if I'm going to have that second monitor then it may as well be a widescreen HD monitor. And if I'm going to go that far, it may as well function as an HDTV too, right? I was talking with a rep at Best Buy yesterday, and he pointed me to this Gateway model. It seems nice. But I'm still not sure what to do...

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...CategoryId=pcmcat39100050030&id=1125466651583
 
Quoted from the Best Buy page: 1680 x 1050 maximum resolution

1080i = 1920 x 1080
720p = 1280 x 720

I took a stroll though Best Buy the other day looking at every single monitor they had on display. There was nothing there that would handle full 1080i resolution.

The one Dell does. When it is on sale, you can't beat the price.
 
Bono said:
Am I crazy? It seems like when I playback footage on my Sharp Aquos LCD TV, it looks better than when I play it on an LCD computer monitor...I can't tell if it's better simply because it's bigger (32" LCD HDTV versus 23" LCD Monitor), or if it really does look cleaner.
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there are a few reasons for this possibly being the case. first look at something like the dell 24 display, yes it will display full 1080 resolution but look at how poor it's video controls for component input are, only hue/tint and saturation are available. what happened to brightness and color? i'm sure those options are available on your Aquos. then look at a regular 4x3 LCD monitor like this 20" Dell that i'm using to type this reply connected via DVI. when i go to the "color settings" menu i now only have the ability to adjust R, G & B levels.

my point is this, a single manufacturer can take the same panel, and incorporate different control boards for the same panel giving you different ranges of adjustability. while i can't say for sure since i don't have a Dell LCD TV in front of me, i would almost bet that IT has brightness and color controls as well as hue/tint and saturation.

and then look at the fact that the 24" Dell display that is so popluar around here can disaply full 1080 rez but even their 23", 26", and 32" Dell "HDTV"s only can provide full 720 rez.

one of my points being, YES indeed HDTVs are a different beast than their HD capable computer monitor brothers. Bono i would also almost bet that your 32" Aquos is only 720 capable unless you got the extremely recent 1080p capable ones.

overall what i want to emphasize is that the same manufacturer can and will build LCD displays differently with different features and method of calibration depending upon the target market.

my other point is this, if you want real pro/broadacast monitoring of your video then go for a pro/broadcast displays like the Sony Luma or Panasonic models found here:

http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webap...toreId=11201&catalogId=13051&catGroupId=14625

but even see that the 32" Panasonic pro model will resolve a full 720p picture

if you can't afford to spend $3k for pro stuff, then the dell 24" and apple displays should be your next choice. but that is for your editing needs.

in conclusion if i had gobs of money and were building a nice suite for client viewings, i'd get a Sony BRAVIA LCD, those have the finest LCD picture controls on the planet, followed closely by the Aquos series. However for editing I would also have something like a Dell 24" or Apple Cinema Display since those have 1 to 1 pixel mapping. the last thing i want to see when editing in HD is some cheap LCD manufacturers scaling circuitry converting 1080 to 720 or vice versa.
 
What if I'm only shooting in 720p though?


I'm not worried about HDTV programming so much because I barely watch TV as it is. However, I do want to be able to enjoy HD-DVD or Blu-Ray or whatever ends up winning. So will they be in 720p or 1080i?
 
That's not true. The 37" Westinghouse LCD at Best Buy does do 1080p. I have one, and it's awesome.
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Whoops...good call jeffy. They didn't have this on display in the store. Very nice. If I had a rich uncle, I'd drop two of these in the edit suite...one for monitoring and one for the timeline. Could edit from across the room.

DammitJanet, I'd go with a 1080p display, then you have all your bases covered.
 
Trust me, you don't wanna do that. :) The Windows UI on a screen that big almost hurts your eyes even from five or six feet away!
 
i also forgot yo mention that possibly HVX content would look better on a consumer HDTV than on a computer HD capable monitor because consumer displays can have varying degrees of noise reduction processing which could also be why one sees a better looking image on an Aquos versus a computer LCD.

on the other hand this is bad for editing because you would want to see any aritfacts or noise in it's most pure form. in some consumer displays you can turn this off but you also really never know if their off is OFF or just really low.
 
There is a lot of nonsense in this thread -- do research before you spend money is my advice.

The Samsung 244MP is a 1080 capable monitor with both DVI and analog component inputs and a tuner -- a very solid computer monitor (assuming you have a graphics adapter that can handle 1920x1080) and a solid HDTV as well.

This isn't the only one available, just the one I remember the model number for.

GB
 
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