IDX Battery Life

jlames

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OK, I promissed you all a report on the new IDX batteries and here it is. We were at Edwards AFB in North Los Angeles Country (think space shuttle landing) shooting on location with a generator and IDXs attached. Ambient temerature was 76 and the generator put out a typical 110 converted current equavalent to a standard 20amp household duplex wall outlet. Finally, they were new, out of the box batteries which charged per the manufacturer's recommendation overnight.

As most know, the JVC pulls considerably more power with the LCD out than when it is closed and we had a chance to test both with four of the six cameras sporting 7" OH monitors plugged into another battery source and 2 cameras using the small LCD flipper. . . and the difference was noticable. Without the LCD, the E7s lasted 4 hours and 20 minutes with probably another 1-3 minutes or so in reserve. The E10 lasted 5 hours 50 minutes with again about 1-3 minutes to spare. We have no way of knowing the exact time because we didn't exhaust the batteries during shooting b ut the remainder is a good estimate. With the monitors out, however, the E7's time dropped to 3 hours 47 minutes and the E10 went down to 4 hours and 20 minutes so the monitor seems to be pulling an additionl 6 watts of power although JVC doesn't separate out these specs.

Recharging with the charger was overnight so we have no way of knowing what the actual times were but polugging them in at 1:30am and pulling them off at 6:30 means that somewhere between 5 minutes and 5 hours was recharge time with a standard charger. A quick time charger is available at an exctra cost butr we only had the standard for testing.

One caveat however that might be a real downside for shooters using the light that attaches to the hot-shoe. The battery plate connects to the JVC's rear just like conventional batteries and is secured to the top of the camera with two small screws. An optional side plate is available that then attaches to the right side of the battery plate with two thumb screws, one top and one bottom, so that a wireless receiver can be attached to the camera and secured to this plate. The problem is that the outlet into which the light's power cord attacthes is on the side of the battery mounting plate and with the side plate and two screws attached, the battery plate's receptacle is covered up That mewans that if you want to use the optional hot shoe light and it's plugged into the battery mounting plate, you can't use the side wireless receiver plate. One of those, "What were you tinking" deals. We contacted IDX and they assured us that the system worked but, well, five of us with a collective IQ of 165 (which means each of us averages 33!!!) couldn't figure out how.


So, when all is said and done, the IDX batteries are a huge improvement over the stock units and, for field use, work great...especially when you consider the fact that they are free with the IDX/JVC deal in place until February 28th. We use Anton Bauer as well on other equipment simply because they out-perform the original power equipment on most cameras likje IDX did on these. We can't judge the Antons against the IDX fairly but they seem apples-to-apples to us so the bottom line is that if IDX keeps doing deals with companies like JVC, I for one will continue to buy additional batteries for our IDX-equipped units from IDX which means our Anon-Bauer equipped cameras will remain Anton Bauer and our new equipment will make the move to IDX. Pretty smart move on IDX's part I'd say considering that since we already have IDX on our JVCs now, when we need peripheral powered units for those cameras, we'll have to order from IDX which we don't mind becuase of the performance.

Hope this helps some of you. I know I appreciate hearing from real-world tests so I don't make the 92 MPG City 164 MPG highway mistake in the camera department.
 
During that running time how often where the recorder used? And the zoom?

Thanks for your post.
 
An excellent question. Just when I thought I had all the bases covered!!! The recording heads were engaged more times than not, perhaps 85-90% of the time average across 6 cameras. Obviously all of the cameras were not engaged all of the time but on average, the batteries had their fair share of load factor. These are the tings we look for sinmply because of the type of shooting we doPower zoom was hardly used but stabndard, manual zoom was used frequently to satisfy the action and distance needs.
 
Nice info. I ordered 2 swit batteries yesterday, I was using 2 standard JVC and 4 Power2000 batteries. The JVC battery lasts for about 40 minutes non stop recording with 5% of LCD use and no zoom. These Power2000 I have last a bit more because they are 3200 mha. I sometimes shoot long shows and everytime the battery runs off I lose important stuff. It is important for me to have long life batteries, however I think 5 or 6 BN-V428 batteries will do the job in most situations and it is a cheaper solution.
 
DSM has 2 betteries in style of JVC's BN that don't require a bracket, they fit directly on the camera. DSM-J7472 (L-ion 7.4V, 9.6A/h, 74 Wh) and DSM-J7496 (L-ion 7.4V, 7.2A/h, 52 Wh). I don't know if they're under development or if are already available.
 
In speaking with the IDX reps on their batteries, I was critical of the manner in which they conducted/are conducting the special offer between JVC and IDX. My position was and is echoed by a number of you who have PM'd me relative to the fact that it does the independent little good to have the camera without the new batteries immediately to go along with it given the immediacy of the need. The JVC batteries, as anyone who's tried them knows, last about 40 minutes w/o heavy use of auto zoom, continuous tape head engagement and use of the flip-out monitor. With that use, usable power time drops appreciably to about 20 minutes; a perfect workflow match for the HVX/P2 card...change the card, change the battery!!! The rep, Michelle, absolutely sympathizes with our plight but can only forward my message and email to the folks at JVC. She also noted that if enough of us took the time to let JVC and IDX know our feelings and provided them with a solution, they'd take us seriously. Thus, elsewhere in the JVC Board you'll find a "complaint/recommendation" form. Cutting it, copying it into an e-mail (we-mail) of your own and sending it along to JVC and IDX might mean the next promo benefits us a lot more than this one did/does. It's such an easy fix; just have a stock of them ready with the cameras at the retailers. Please see the other post, cut, copy and we-mail it today. We're together, a powerful voice in the film community but only by banding together once in a while will the corporate world get the message.
 
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