Barry_Green
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As of today, Apple's FCP support for Intra is to use Log & Transfer to transcode to ProRes.
Skew-Off: EX1 vs. prototype HPX300
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BTT
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Yes, both ProRes 422 and ProRes 422 HQ. I've had that available for ages, did they just make it official or something?
In the Log and Transfer panel there is a preferences pane where you choose your transcode settings for both AVC-Intra and AVCHD.
This is also the pref pane where you can choose to remove pulldown from your flagged footage. (pA recording).
In the Log and Transfer panel there is a preferences pane where you choose your transcode settings for both AVC-Intra and AVCHD.
This is also the pref pane where you can choose to remove pulldown from your flagged footage. (pA recording).
Barry_Green
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It's not new as of today (I'm assuming that's what you meant?) What I was saying is, as things stand now, you have to transcode. I don't know whether things will always be that way, but that's the way it is right now.
Cees Mutsaers
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is the problem also there in 1080/25p and 1080/30p ??
Barry_Green
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Didn't try 30p. Actually I can't think of why not, but I didn't try it. Should have.
As for 25p, I can't test that, the US market cameras don't do 25p...
As for 25p, I can't test that, the US market cameras don't do 25p...
Kenn Christenson
Well-known member
As this was a prototype, any chance the production version of the camera will "skew/wobble" differently?
alexdias
Well-known member
The first step in a situation like that is to recognize the problem.
As per Barry's description the engineers were accompanying the test and left wit the same conclusions.
So I guess they will be working on a improvement ASAP. Which might take a while...
Kenn Christenson
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Guess I'll wait to purchase until all this shakes out. Unfortunately, 1080/24P is the main reason I'm looking at this camera.
Shipsides
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My original footage was shot almost entirely at 1080 24p. This does explain a lot.
I did some similar tests, with the HPX300 & EX3 locked together, and came to the same conclusions. After reading your results Barry I compared the 720p modes and was really surprised. Great job on the tests.
I wonder if Sony had similar problems with the EX1 originally. Many people complain about the stuttered look of 24p on the EX line. I did not notice this on the HPX300. Perhaps they increased the read out of the chips in 24p which fixed one problem but caused another.
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Kenn Christenson
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Although, I don't remember anyone, who owned a Red One, complaining when they increased the readout speed of their CMOS sensor. The problem with the EX1 may be the amount of detail enhancement used.
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Kenn Christenson
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So, is the read out of the HPX300's sensors adjustable after the fact (by a firmware upgrade?) Just want to make sure, before I purchase.
I wasn't at this test, but did preview whatever version of the 300 was out three weeks ago. It does skew in 30p as well. 1080/60i is the least skewed of all framerates and formats. pN is the most noticable.
Any side by side comparison should be conducted on a remote head, where the pan speed is absolutely repeatable.
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Any side by side comparison should be conducted on a remote head, where the pan speed is absolutely repeatable.
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Barry (or anyone) have the current production HPX-300's improved the scewing in 1080 24? Mentioned this on another thread here, but selling my JVC HD110 and gear and looking at JVC HM-700 or HPX-300. These tests make me think for mu usage I should look more at the HPX-500 than the HPX-300 for sports and hand held fast work? Not that I mind too much, I liked the HPX-500 when I used it a couple years ago.
Cees Mutsaers
Veteran
No improvement, seems not possible with a firware update. Read somewhere that it needs an extra memory buffer (so hardware change). Maybe hpx300a in 2011.