If you are not actually using film...

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Jockomo

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Are you still "filming"?

If your piece never makes it to celluloid... are you still a "filmmaker"?

I know at one time, long before any film maker took video seriously, you'd get berated for calling yourself a film maker (by film people) or if you said your were filming something when you were really shooting on video tape.

To this day I still feel silly if I say I'm filming. Although it seems if you say you are a videographer people think you do weddings.


I'm wondering what the consensus is on this issue now.
 
I dunno, if you say you are using a Kleenex to blow your nose, but are really using a generic tissue from Rite-Aid, is your snot still sticky?

If you are shooting on P2, can you really say you are "taping?"
 
There's nothing about "film" implied in the word "cinematographer," any more than there is in "photographer."
 
David Jimerson said:
There's nothing about "film" implied in the word "cinematographer," any more than there is in "photographer."
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Very true. And you don't hear people saying that if the show or film is being shot on video that the director or writer can't be called that and have to use an alternate term.
 
I have not filmed anything in over 10 years. It's expensive and HD video is pretty.
I sometimes see videographer reels mislabled as cinematographer reels. My thinking is if they don't know what their gig is called, they prolly don't rocl very hard at it. That will ge a reel tossed as fast as a fugly lable around here.
All that said, I do consider myself a filmmaker as I still plan to make a film one day.
I just won't put it as my title until I've done it.
 
Having worked with both 16mm & 8mm for years...it's now official...I'm a filmmaker!
(I guess age DOES have some advantages)
 
If you are shooting on P2, can you really say you are "taping?"
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Do the terms "rolling" or even "speed" still then apply?! :happy:

But Videographer still has a stigma of inferiority. Cinematographer; Ah! He is an artist!
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But how many people here truly consider themselves, or present themselves as "cinematographers" when asked? Especially in a professional situation?

Peculiarly enough to me, several years ago saying you were a "filmmaker" had a certain cachet to it. Now when I hear someone describe themselves as that, an increasingly larger part of my jaded eye almost assumes they are one of the 98 percentile that makes really bad home movies shot on HDV. :Drogar-BlackEye(DBG
 
snowleopard said:
Do the terms "rolling" or even "speed" still then apply?! :happy:
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Yea, of all the old school holdouts, hearing someone say speed a few seconds after saying rolling, makes me chuckle. I'd think the delay between hitting record, saying rolling, and then the director calling action would be enough pre-roll for almost any situation. Heh, there's another one.. pre-roll.


One saying I've always loved, but just doesn't apply anymore:

The red button giveth & the red button taketh away.
 
When you go into a restaurant and there is no place setting you ask for 'silverware'. Do you expect it to be real silver?

When Tiger tees off are his 'woods' really wood?

Do you still get 'butter' on your popcorn?

Do you still 'roll down' your car window?

Does a man named Baker make bread for a living? Or a woman named Cooper make barrels?

Language often evolves from the literal to the figurative. There are countless examples, many of which are no longer given a second thought. This is no different, we are just at the beginning of this particular curve.
 
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