Hmc150 vs ex1

no it changes exposure to a specific part of the image without altering the rest, it detects the clipped part and adjust to the rest, that's not in the ex, the cine alta bigger brothers has some cine gamma equivalents, but not the ex1 or ex3.
 
changing any settings would change the whole image, in the hmc, you can have the best exposure settings for the foreground, and the camera would detect the clipped background and change that alone without altering the foreground, that's better than what you can do with the ex.
 
amrrahmy said:
changing any settings would change the whole image, in the hmc, you can have the best exposure settings for the foreground, and the camera would detect the clipped background and change that alone without altering the foreground, that's better than what you can do with the ex.
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I've never heard of this....selective knee function or what?
havent found any literature on it
 
but it's different from adjusting some settings, no matter how you do it, you would never be able to retain foreground exposure untouched while adjusting the clipped part alone.
 
it was always a compromise no matter how small it might be.any adjustment to avoid clipping had some effect on the foreground.
 
no, it has a couple more tricks, i think drs makes a slight change to the foreground while it's not much still good enough, they have another one that effects small clipped parts and underexposed parts as well.
 
i think it's cine-like gamma mode with drs. it's in the bigger hpx and has an equivalent in bigger cine alta but not in the ex
 
no it's the combinition of both that makes the hmc cooler,
yes but it only affects the clipped part which gives the hmc an advantage when in cine gamma.

daylight public places goes to hmc for that,
and ex can take on a set for the quality difference,

at the end after all the comparisons hmc beats ex1 when trying to make a film.
 
Buck Forester said:
This depends on what your markets are. If you are shooting for high-def channels, such as Discovery HD, "close-enough" doesn't cut it. You will not be able to use your 150 for anything but a small percentage of allowable footage. The EX1 apparently is rated at their "Silver" status level and is technically good enough for 100% program footage. So for many (such as myself) this is ALL the difference in the world for selecting a camera. If you're shooting weddings/corporate/indies/family vacations, etc. and there is no mandatory minimum specs required, I'm sure you're right that the 150 'close enough' and is a great value for the moolah. 1/3" chips, no matter what kind, ain't what the big boy high-def broadcasters want for a full HD program. You can only splice a small percentage of footage with those things. They would do me no good. And it would limit my market of stock footage as well.
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Corporate and Independent - That would be me.


I do remember seeing how much HDV content you could use for the Discovery channel about 2 years ago but they never said anything about chip size – only HD format type.
I've been trying to find that info again but I haven't.
I would like to see their requirements on AVCHD and it would be interesting if it's the same as HDV.


Does anyone have a link?


“...big boy high-def broadcasters....”
That's rich.:beer:
 
“...big boy high-def broadcasters....”
That's rich.:beer:
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Ha! You like that one, do ya? :) Actually even the little boy high-def broadcasters, such as Outdoor Channel, have a minimum of tri-1/2" chips. They have a minimum of tri-1/3" chips just for their SD stuff.

The 'specs' is the ONLY reason I went with the EX1. I was set on an HVX200, about ready to buy, when the EX1 was announced. I knew the HVX200 was a great camera and Nat'l Geo used them, but I then learned they weren't allowed for 100% acquisition. The EX1 for the money, in my humble opinion, rules the true high-def spec world because it allows me to create footage as an independent shooter that can compete with the big boys with big budgets. I'm talking wilderness adventure/travel type stuff, and not 'making movies' stuff. I just got back from Six Flags Discovery Kingdom with my wife and kids a couple of days ago and the footage of the killer whale jumping and splashing (at dusk even) shivers me timbers, it's so crisp... I'da thunk it was shot with a $100 grand camera if I hadn't shot it myself. Now I have to see if I can start editing this stuff into something worthwhile, ha! I've always loved still photography and hated post-processing in Photoshop. The magic for me is being there and shooting, not the computer editing stuff. But I gotsta learn it and do it and get 'er done.
 
I hear ya...


I remember back in my FX-1 days there was a lot upheaval over those requirements and there was some compelling reasons given by some Z1 owners as to why HDV could hold up well enough and some even said that if you gave HDV to program directors in a format they wanted you could make it.
I think JVC GY's are 1/3 chips.....


I don't shoot for any stations but I do like to keep up with what's what and the EX-1 is a good camera but 3k over the 150? Not me.


Buck, can you point me to a link for those HD requirements?
 
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