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"Nådeløs" (mercyless) Norwegian tv-series pilot
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Jason Miller
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has it been picked up, it looks like you were trying to "The Shield" style of shooting, but it just didn't come out clean. all their camera movements and shakes are well thought out, as is their lighting, this one just felt like someone with a video camera fallowing these people, I can't really judge the acting and story because well I only speak English it did look like if you hashed it out a bit more it could look much better
filmman
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Hei there. It was nice to see that things have come a long way since I was shooting with Odd-Geir Saether 
Say hello to him for me, vic alexander, he'll remember the shoot we we did so many moons ago.
The pilot looked pretty realistic. The sound disappeared from my right earphone toward the end in one scene, and the phone conversation early in the clip with the girl talking, came from the left side only. I couldn't make out what she was saying. We should hear both voices on both speakers. You can throw a high pass filter on her voice and keep it between 500 and 1200 kHertz (I don't remember the best range) but as we don't see her, her voice should sound tinny.
Oh, well, otherwise the lighting was good. The camera movement didn't bother me; it was the right subject matter -- it added to the violence.
The acting was very realistic. Were they theater actors? It was well done. I think it would make a strong feature for the foreign market. Does NRK show stuff this graphic nowadays?
Say hello to him for me, vic alexander, he'll remember the shoot we we did so many moons ago.The pilot looked pretty realistic. The sound disappeared from my right earphone toward the end in one scene, and the phone conversation early in the clip with the girl talking, came from the left side only. I couldn't make out what she was saying. We should hear both voices on both speakers. You can throw a high pass filter on her voice and keep it between 500 and 1200 kHertz (I don't remember the best range) but as we don't see her, her voice should sound tinny.
Oh, well, otherwise the lighting was good. The camera movement didn't bother me; it was the right subject matter -- it added to the violence.
The acting was very realistic. Were they theater actors? It was well done. I think it would make a strong feature for the foreign market. Does NRK show stuff this graphic nowadays?
Thank you.. I will send regards to Odd-Geir, he's a brilliant guy..
I know there's alot of sound issues right now, I was the photographer on this film so I would like feedback on the photography first and foremost.
Jason Miller: I'm not sure what you mean by "The Shield style o shooting", I had a style thought out before we startet shooting, it was supposed to look documentary and real, with long shots and handheld upclose action. I am pretty pleased with the result on my behalf, and please keep in mind that I am a film student, this is my second year. Thanks for the feedback!
I know there's alot of sound issues right now, I was the photographer on this film so I would like feedback on the photography first and foremost.
Jason Miller: I'm not sure what you mean by "The Shield style o shooting", I had a style thought out before we startet shooting, it was supposed to look documentary and real, with long shots and handheld upclose action. I am pretty pleased with the result on my behalf, and please keep in mind that I am a film student, this is my second year.
Thanks for the feedback!
Jason Miller
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its good that you thought everything out, and it make work beautifuly with the story, I'm not sure what that story is because I didn't understand it, but one thing I can advice you for sure of is never ever say these words again, "please keep in mind that I am a film student" at least you didn't say just a film student. while yes you are a student, while you're making your film, you are a Filmmaker, and you have talent, never ever say its your student film say its your film, as soon as you allow being a student to be a crutch, you'll find yourself needing that crutch.
if you go into your film saying it is never acceptable for your film to look like a student film, it will probably come out looking much better than a student film.
and the Shield is a TV show on the FX network in America, its a really good show, and while there is a lot of camera shakes and jerks, it still feels very clean. sometimes a shake can bring up more into the story, sometimes it pushes us out. while I wasn't able to get into the story because I didn't understand what was being said, I did feel sometimes the shakes took me even further out.
if you go into your film saying it is never acceptable for your film to look like a student film, it will probably come out looking much better than a student film.
and the Shield is a TV show on the FX network in America, its a really good show, and while there is a lot of camera shakes and jerks, it still feels very clean. sometimes a shake can bring up more into the story, sometimes it pushes us out. while I wasn't able to get into the story because I didn't understand what was being said, I did feel sometimes the shakes took me even further out.
filmman
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If this is a project still in production, and you can reshoot some scenes, I'd say, shoot the double-cross scene a little clearer, so the audience can figure out what happened at the point of the dope-money exchange. As it is we don't even know who is who; new characters are introduced (which is ok) but they become part of the story without even proper coverage.
The actual camera work is fine. I agree, it doesn't matter whether it's film student shooting or professional; all that matters is does it work, and, yes, mostly it works, and its even brilliant sometimes, such as the introduction of Thomas and the first mention of "big money" -- the camera moves around and makes the offer and the acceptance of the partnership in crime quite natural. It's believable, I mean.
So I'm not saying reshoot extensively, just a few shots here and there to clarify who these characters are and what they look like before you engage the audience in what they're doing.
It's funny how much this style of shooting reminds me of Odd-Geir. We were on a wharf in Kristiansand and I asked him to shoot a scene of the wharf (I was directing a commercial). He just pulled out the Arri 2c and began shooting. I thought that is just too fast; does he know what he's doing? I didn't say anything. Later when I got the film back from the lab I was blown away. It was the most gorgeous footage I'd ever seen. You're right, he is brilliant, and he may be one of the most brilliant cameramen of Norway.
The actual camera work is fine. I agree, it doesn't matter whether it's film student shooting or professional; all that matters is does it work, and, yes, mostly it works, and its even brilliant sometimes, such as the introduction of Thomas and the first mention of "big money" -- the camera moves around and makes the offer and the acceptance of the partnership in crime quite natural. It's believable, I mean.
So I'm not saying reshoot extensively, just a few shots here and there to clarify who these characters are and what they look like before you engage the audience in what they're doing.
It's funny how much this style of shooting reminds me of Odd-Geir. We were on a wharf in Kristiansand and I asked him to shoot a scene of the wharf (I was directing a commercial). He just pulled out the Arri 2c and began shooting. I thought that is just too fast; does he know what he's doing? I didn't say anything. Later when I got the film back from the lab I was blown away. It was the most gorgeous footage I'd ever seen. You're right, he is brilliant, and he may be one of the most brilliant cameramen of Norway.