Windows XP Or Vista For CS4

[Chris_Mueller]

Although I do miss the excitement ( but not the frustrations ) of building my own and the adrenaline rush when it powers up for the first time. Oh well...

Tell me about it... it was the first computer I've built in 6 years and I forgot what was what (especially with "new" technology like SATA drives) and it was incredibly frustrating.

You're right, you simply can't beat a good warranty. If ever I have a problem with my computer I have to put my thinking cap on or do a little research online to figure out what I've done wrong. Sometimes it's worth it to make a phone call and get a replacement part in the mail--especially when time is limited.

 

[Demistate]

But XP uses less memory than Vista so if you have say 3 gigs of ram then it may be the better option.

this is false, since in XP, all programs have to fit into a 2GB window. Period. (Unless 3gb switch, then its 3gb)

In Vista 64, even if you only have 2gb of ram, you could be using up to 4GB total just for one program with a page file. (Performance would be bad, however it would not max out the memory, causing a crash)

Page file essentially gives you as much virtual ram as you need by using up hard disc space.

For our profession, 64bit programs and operating systems are vital now that we're dealing with HD sized frames on a regular basis.

If you have all new hardware and software, there is no reason to run 32bit.

 

[Gang_Green]

Plug ins are one of the last weak links in the chain that are keeping me from 64bit

Plug ins are one of the last weak links in the chain that are keeping me from 64bit

I have a dual boot of VISTA 64 bit and XP 32 bit. I switch back and forth and find VISTA edits very well with CS3 but I still use XP more often for one reason - Magic bullet suite will not run on VISTA 64. - Along with other plug ins for premiere...

I have no idea why Magic Bullet guys are taking so long but Until these guys update and make a version that runs 64bit i will stay with XP for most work.

 

[srfjm]

Dual Boot Setup Question

Dual Boot Setup Question

Hey Guys,
I'm running a nicely stable workstation setup with trusty xp pro 32 bit, but it's time to get going in a 64 bit environment for sure. I plan to setup a dual boot with xp pro 32 and Vista Ultimate 64 - this I've read up on - seems easy enough. but what I don't get:

- Since I will need to install software twice (once for each op system), I will have to activate certain apps twice. This can be an issue with products like my Masters Collection that have limited activations - any idea if Adobe will extend another activation for this purpose?

- when setting up the dual boot, whichever op system is installed first gets the 'c' drive designation... the other has to run as something else? That's a hassle when in that environment, no?

Thanks for any answers - just want to make sure I know exactly what I'm getting into!

I have a dual boot of VISTA 64 bit and XP 32 bit. I switch back and forth and find VISTA edits very well with CS3 but I still use XP more often for one reason - Magic bullet suite will not run on VISTA 64. - Along with other plug ins for premiere...

I have no idea why Magic Bullet guys are taking so long but Until these guys update and make a version that runs 64bit i will stay with XP for most work.

 

[EIREHotspur]

Looking at XP 64 systems on ebay tonight and decided to open this thread again.

When do you see 64 bit coming into the mainstream?
Wonder if they will do what a lot of tech companies do and offer 64 bit wondows at the same price accross the board so as to encourage people to move to it.
We know a lot of people are happy with Celeron PCs (I hate them) to write emails and letters and play freecell.....but I mean people like on these forums and the other one.

 

[Daygola814]

I have a dual boot system right now and the only reason I do is because AVID Media Composer won't install on Vista 64. Not the version I have at least. I have 2.5.

Anyways, I would highly recommend Vista 64 because you can load more RAM. That reason alone is more than enough to get a 64 bit system, especially when using After Effects. You can assign AE to use a TON of RAM.

If my version of Avid ran on Vista 64, I wouldn't have a dual boot system. I'd strictly be Vista 64. When I upgrade to Media Composer 3, I'm going to get rid of my XP partition.

 

[Hidef1080]

Looking at XP 64 systems on ebay tonight and decided to open this thread again.

When do you see 64 bit coming into the mainstream?
Wonder if they will do what a lot of tech companies do and offer 64 bit wondows at the same price accross the board so as to encourage people to move to it.
We know a lot of people are happy with Celeron PCs (I hate them) to write emails and letters and play freecell.....but I mean people like on these forums and the other one.

I remember reading somewhere that when Windows 7 comes out in 2009 or 2010 it will still be offered as both 32 bit and 64 bit but the original plan was to make it primarily a 64 bit OS. Take that for what it's worth however because I cannot remember where I read it.


It seems as if 32 bit system and software will be with us for some years to come and like many people here I have some programs that are 32 bit only so my main system is still 32 bit but as soon as I can I'm going all 64.
Really I'm at the point where I may just drop all of my 32 bit programs and find work arounds.

Celeron PC's blow BTW...rogar-Evil(DBG):

 

[Daygola814]

Also, isn't OSX 64 bit? So basically that's where we're going to be. Apple already converted over to it and Microsoft will too. Most of the drivers for printers, etc are available in 64bit but I mean, we're talking about editing systems here so the main thing we have to worry about is our editing programs. Technically, we're not supposed to be installing much else on our editing machines for performance purposes.

 

[srfjm]

I posted earlier in this thread right before I set up a dual boot on my main production machine... keeping my xp pro 32 bit and adding vista ultimate 64.

My findings: I have been surprised at how little doesn't work in the 64 bit environment. Of course the apps that have 64 bit versions are awesome (cs4) and can utilize much more ram (16gb in my case), but even the 32 bit apps run fine - just with the same ram use limitations as a 32 bit environment. I have only come across one or two unnecessary 32 bit apps that don't work properly in the 64 bit environment.

So far, I'm using my 64 bit system 90% of the time.

 

[EIREHotspur]

So come on srfjm....sicken us all with rendering stats and how much faster it is with CS4 and 64bit.

Thats the Holy Grail for me......speed, speed and more speed while rendering.

 

[srfjm]

So come on srfjm....sicken us all with rendering stats and how much faster it is with CS4 and 64bit.

Thats the Holy Grail for me......speed, speed and more speed while rendering.

Ha - yeah I hear ya! Until I get the rest of the suite, I only have Photoshop CS4 installed, so I can't speak for CS4 rendering/transcoding times. But I have noticed that After Effects (CS3) seems faster and can do longer ram previews - even under 32 bit ram allocation limitations... though in the 64 bit environment you can allocate more ram than you can in the 32 (it recognizes and is able to use the full 4gb).

 

[Demistate]

So come on srfjm....sicken us all with rendering stats and how much faster it is with CS4 and 64bit.

Thats the Holy Grail for me......speed, speed and more speed while rendering.

64bit wont magically speed up your comptuer. All it does is allow you to access more ram, and thats it.

64bit native applications will have an easier time loading up really large files. (since it wont have to be broken into 2gb chunks), but we're talking really large images (Frame sizes over 2gb).