New 5DII footage ....and some thoughts about Scarlet

yea, that's the best so far... at 1080p, it still looks amazing and that probably has an extra layer of compression on it than the raw footage.

the colours, low light, sharpness, DOF (and girls) .... all beautiful

2 weeks till I get one... this is like being a kid again
 
It's got some weird exposures, and it's pretty darn sharpened. It's very nice, but gives me the impression that the camera was tougher to set up and use than usual. And the sharpness and 30 fps certainly doesn't hit me in the right spot.
 
I think most people will be able to pull out the look they want... 30fps is the biggest issue, but there are work arounds... and who knows what firmware could bring.

I think there is more chances of a 24p firmware for the 5d than a stairstep/shaprness/ wobble free update for the d90.
 
I agree. There are people up high talking to canon reps, there is a big push for 25/24 especially due to PAL problems.

Personally I don't care that much about 24p. I will deal with it. 35mm DoF, the saturation, and sensitivity is much more important to me, but I understand not everybody feels this way.
 
Jim Klatt said:
wow. that's the first 5d video that has blown me away.
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Really? I thought it was excellent but not better than Reverie by Laforet.

I think I'll get the 5DII with the 24-105L Kit lens, and I might also pick up the new 24mm 1.4L II. Those lenses combined with my 50mm 1.4 and 85mm 1.8 should be a great lens kit for this camera. I'm thinking of also picking some stuff from Red Rock Micro. http://www.redrockmicro.com/redrock_dslr.html

.......might also spring for the 85mm 1.2L II.
 
infurno said:
Sharpness, contrast, and saturation can all be adjusted in the camera.
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Cool, I hope we can make a D90 out of it in those terms. A D90 that shoots a signal as good as a 5D or a 5D that renders colors like the D90 would be ideal!:thumbup:
 
I chatted to a sales person in the UK and it seems there hasn't been anywhere near the ordering frenzy for the 5D in Europe as there is in places that shoot NTSC. That has to be because of the lack of PAL format. As a still DSLR, it is a nice upgrade... but not an essential one, by all accounts. The pre-order frenzy seems to have come mainly from the film/video market.

I think Canon (and Nikon) didn't fully guage just how popular their cameras could be for film and video makers.

If Canon want to target Europe and see a massive increase in sales... then a 25fps firmware will have to happen. If that is possible, then a 24fps upgrade will surely be possible too.

Luckily... the idea of more money often gets changes done quicker.

I personally don't see any major upgrades for the D90 on the horizon as I think Nikon has used it as an indicator of the market, before releasing a high end video model (possibly announced on Dec 1st?). If there are no upgrades by the end of the year... my d90 hits ebay.
 
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That's what makes the internet so great. I wonder how many indie films get 14,000 viewers when transfered to film and released in theaters.
 
LOL, true. The average "PER SCREEN AVERAGE" is about 2500-3000k. The beauty is you get to keep & control your own work. The Internet is Awesome when used right.
 
i think its crazy that it got 19k+ hits because the search for that vimeo video is so specific, so it means mass amounts of ppl have been looking for mkII footage
 
I'm impressed by the footage. The Canon 5d MkII I've noticed, even with the same nikon glass, has it's own distinct look. I think the main distinguishing features are the way the colours and line details are so smooth and rich, then coupled with that 30fps motion. Is the automatic shutter speed higher or something too?

I still kind of prefer the d90's fuzzy haze to the colours... like old school film telecine transfers. I don't think it's the frame rate, as you can clearly see the difference when the videos are paused. Is the shutter and the way the chipset handles colour latitude that different?

It's kind of like, let's say film comparison: the 5D is the Kodak Vision2 film stock and the d90 is a Fuji Reala series.

Or am I being silly?
 
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i don't know. i made a short that was shown on swedish television as part of a popular children's show. it got 2,000,000 viewers. the internet is a great distribution channel but its power comes from targeting (which this is a great example of btw) rather than scale. i'd much rather have 10,000 people see my film in theaters and 1,000,000 on tv and dvd than a billion on the internet.

/matt
 
the d90 has a much brighter gamma, even if you increase the contrast in the settings. with some color correction it looks more similar. all the canon clips i've seen look sharpened too, too bad it's hard to post sharpen d90 footage without amplifying the noise and dct artifacts.

i definitely agree that you can compare them as you can film stocks. the differences are of the same kind for sure. grain, contrast, saturation, and so on.

/matt
 
I would argue that internet viewers are probably more important than tv viewers. They have actively found your content rather than being fed it by a tv station.... tv viewers often watch one channel because there is nothing else worth watching on the other channels... or are even too bored/tired/lazy to try and find something else.

In around 5 years time, I don't think TVs/TV stations will even exsist as we know them now... just computer driven entertainment centers with content on demand, via the internet.

This can only be a good thing, as the best content will rise to the top and the awful reality tv and poor shows will be worthless and wont get a budget from content sellers.

just my personal view.
 
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