HPX170 ProRes (HQ) and DVCproHD Comparison (footage and full res stills)

WOW... excellent news that you guys discovered this, thanks Dino and thanks Kholi for not letting up and trusting your senses!

I am not sure if I understand Jan, did you say the -3dB would not be possible through firmware?
 
I have spoken at length to a New Jersey engineer today and I know Jan has been very involved in communicating our concerns to engineering. I feel that, like the lens issue, Panasonic is taking this seriously and will be doing tests in NJ and Osaka.

I am happy with the response we're getting and feel comfortable that if there is a noise issue, it will be identified. My theory is that the differential in noise and sensitivity between 200A and 170 is due mainly to the different lens diameter.

The Panasonic engineer did tell me that the processing circuitry is completely different on the 170 vs. the 200/200A/500. He was unwilling to speculate as to whether a firmware revision via SD Card could be implemented to change gain structure or add a -3db capability, understandably.
 
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It is a shame we can't keep the 82mm on the 170 for the price of the 200a or maybe even a few hundred more.

I hope you are right about them looking into it Dino.
 
Actually I looked at Jeff's camera today. At first look it seemed to have more sensitivitiy than the other 170 I had sitting next to it. So I did a reset on the camera's scene files , reset the User files and then set it to 1080/24P for comparison. It then looked like the 170 that I had, which I did the exact same thing(reset everything)

I then compared it to the HVX200A, it was quieter. It had a slightly different texture but nothing adverse, nice in fact. Then I check resolution, it clearly had more resolution than the HVX200A. But in an effort to make it look like the HVX200A I added +2 to the Detail coring and then the cameras were very close. The 170 still had a little more resolution.

I shipped Jeff's camera back to him this afternoon, he should have it tomorrow.

All the best,

Jan
 
So you just pressed the reset button in and that fixed a stop of sensitivity? I'm about to press the button on my camera.

wait, what reset button?
 
How did this issue turn out?

I am on the verge of ordering an HPX171 (I'm in Europe). I have the Panny dealer waiting but this noise issue is bothering me.
 
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