taormina
Hates to Rent
Not at all, man. I get it. Most people like it but hey, if I could please everyone I'd be rich!
Still, thanks for dropping by.
Corrado Part II
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Not at all, man. I get it. Most people like it but hey, if I could please everyone I'd be rich!
Still, thanks for dropping by.
Nathyn
Low Budget Ninja
I think that's what he's going for. This looks like the old school DTV action films. This type of stuff used to come on Showtime late at night. That's how some movies end up getting a lot of fans.
-Nate
10s
Veteran
My 2 cents on Getting it Right: When we design & craft movies we enter a kind of Black Hole, that is, no one really knows how to make a successful movie. Even the top pros (they get it wrong sometimes too!) and there isn't a reliable "how to" recipe book on it, only advice on screewriting, lighting, camera, acting, producing... so we enter a process of employing our cinematic judgement and mixing it into a brew with chance & circumstance hoping the audience will like it.
Because no one knows exactly how to make successful movies 100% of the time, it's common to find film makers testing their wares on the public, just like every other manufacture does when they bring new products to market. Even breakfeast cereals are extensively tested before companies commit to their production, and so should we.
On the DVD extras for the movie Final Destination there's a very nice look into this screen testing process, it's worth the trouble to watch it and see if this would work for you. For me, this process is a valuable extra tool for gathering needed unbiased audience information so we can adjust our wares for maximum public acceptance. The alternative is to blindly march forward, have hope and be prepared for unexpected rejection and emotional trauma.
Adam, good work! I like it. It's been a hard road and you've accomplished signifcant milestones, so just keep your eye on the ball, keep charging ahead while you enjoy all of our armchair quarterback wisdom.
Because no one knows exactly how to make successful movies 100% of the time, it's common to find film makers testing their wares on the public, just like every other manufacture does when they bring new products to market. Even breakfeast cereals are extensively tested before companies commit to their production, and so should we.
On the DVD extras for the movie Final Destination there's a very nice look into this screen testing process, it's worth the trouble to watch it and see if this would work for you. For me, this process is a valuable extra tool for gathering needed unbiased audience information so we can adjust our wares for maximum public acceptance. The alternative is to blindly march forward, have hope and be prepared for unexpected rejection and emotional trauma.
Adam, good work! I like it. It's been a hard road and you've accomplished signifcant milestones, so just keep your eye on the ball, keep charging ahead while you enjoy all of our armchair quarterback wisdom.
hoofandmouf
Well-known member
word man.
great attitude and supreme good luck and good vibes on the next project. the original thread (the BIG A** ONE) was such a great read, thanx for that.
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great attitude and supreme good luck and good vibes on the next project. the original thread (the BIG A** ONE) was such a great read, thanx for that.
:beer:
hoofandmouf
Well-known member
yeah I feel ya. In a way I kind of see that now.
the American Ninja (80s ninja camp cheese) films looked like SH*T but I love them like no other, so yeah, I def see where you're coming from. Not saying that Corrado reminds me of American Ninja at all.... it actually looks much better... but yeah. Good to see Sizemore back on the screen and off the junk.
Ted Spencer
Veteran
Thanks, Kholi!
Nathyn
Low Budget Ninja
If you love American Ninja you'll love "Wages of Sin". :thumbup: No ninjas though. I think there's a lot of filmmakers doing throw back films. Old school movies but with some new school style. I tried it and like it but my next film is going to be totally new school. But I think the Corrado trailer definitely has all the right scenes in the trailer. It looks like old school hardcore action, no John Woo type antics.
-Nate
Mickey Munday
Well-known member
i thought the trailer was well put together..my only questions are:
1) why is the trailer in SD if it was shot on HD?
2) is it me or does the slow motion in some scenes look choppy (scene where guys in the house all get shot up) like it was done in post?
i like your product and its enough that i would pay money to rent it or maybe even check it out in the theaters
i also like that:
a) your attitude towards critics and feedback is very open and positive (i HATE when filmmakers can only take ego stroking and not blunt feedback)
b) all the information and details you've provided. that's what the indie filmmaking process is all about, sharing and receiving info amongst peers
c) there's no cheerleaders in this thread when someone responds they did not like the trailer
d) the film looks well put together
@ hoofandmouf - just curious, what didn't you like about the cinematography?
1) why is the trailer in SD if it was shot on HD?
2) is it me or does the slow motion in some scenes look choppy (scene where guys in the house all get shot up) like it was done in post?
i like your product and its enough that i would pay money to rent it or maybe even check it out in the theaters
i also like that:
a) your attitude towards critics and feedback is very open and positive (i HATE when filmmakers can only take ego stroking and not blunt feedback)
b) all the information and details you've provided. that's what the indie filmmaking process is all about, sharing and receiving info amongst peers
c) there's no cheerleaders in this thread when someone responds they did not like the trailer
d) the film looks well put together
@ hoofandmouf - just curious, what didn't you like about the cinematography?
Gohanto
Veteran
I agree very much with this idea. And just adding to it always keep in mind...
Ebert doesn't like Fight Club.
Lubezki thought most of Children of Men should be shot on a steadicam (right or wrong, the film was still Oscar nominated for direction and cinematography).
Goodfellas had the worst preview response in the history of the studio.
No one believed in Star Wars or Titanic before they came out.
Ted Spencer
Veteran
Same stuff happens in the music business, where songs are expected to be or not expected to be hits. It's widely known that it can't be known...
emretufekci
Well-known member
Hi Adam,
If I may I would like to post some constructive criticism about the latest trailer you posted. Please note I have not seen the earlier version and this is my first glimpse in to your film.
When I watched your trailer I noticed that regardless of the action, actors and the cinematography it was a very low impact trailer. The editing, sounds fx, story progression was very under utilized.
Looking at the footage that was in the trailer there is enormous potential to pull out an amazing trailer that would wow all audiences. Everything from the opening bug to the ending title does not due the content justice.
Please consider re-cutting your trailer with a 3rd party editor who has a lot of experience cutting trailers. I think compared to you investment into this movie, it might be one of cheapest but the smartest moves.
I am only saying this because I think you have put an amazing effort into making this movie and I truly wish the best for your product. I think you have inspired a lot of filmmakers here and I only wish to see your product succeed as I think it will pave the way for a lot more people to do what you did.
I wish you best of luck and look forward to your next film.
Cheers,
If I may I would like to post some constructive criticism about the latest trailer you posted. Please note I have not seen the earlier version and this is my first glimpse in to your film.
When I watched your trailer I noticed that regardless of the action, actors and the cinematography it was a very low impact trailer. The editing, sounds fx, story progression was very under utilized.
Looking at the footage that was in the trailer there is enormous potential to pull out an amazing trailer that would wow all audiences. Everything from the opening bug to the ending title does not due the content justice.
Please consider re-cutting your trailer with a 3rd party editor who has a lot of experience cutting trailers. I think compared to you investment into this movie, it might be one of cheapest but the smartest moves.
I am only saying this because I think you have put an amazing effort into making this movie and I truly wish the best for your product. I think you have inspired a lot of filmmakers here and I only wish to see your product succeed as I think it will pave the way for a lot more people to do what you did.
I wish you best of luck and look forward to your next film.
Cheers,
BMFM FILMS
Well-known member
From what I remember, he just chopped it up himself just to show us a taste of Corrado, of course there will be a re-cut of the trailer. All in all, I love the potential.
filmman
Veteran
the only reason a filmmaker should cut a trailer (promo or teaser) is to get distribution
once he/she finds a distributor, the distributor cuts the trailer
the distributor knows what his buyers want
those buyers only buy if the trailers are like the ones they bought before
it's a waste of time for a filmmaker to cut a final trailer ... imho
once he/she finds a distributor, the distributor cuts the trailer
the distributor knows what his buyers want
those buyers only buy if the trailers are like the ones they bought before
it's a waste of time for a filmmaker to cut a final trailer ... imho
taormina
Hates to Rent
Exactly!
taormina
Hates to Rent
the only reason a filmmaker should cut a trailer (promo or teaser) is to get distribution
once he/she finds a distributor, the distributor cuts the trailer
the distributor knows what his buyers want
those buyers only buy if the trailers are like the ones they bought before
it's a waste of time for a filmmaker to cut a final trailer ... imho
Filmman wins!
As I have said before, the distributor will cut the trailer!
I don't want this thread to revolve around the trailer, criticism or praise of it, and what it needs. It's a closed subject. The trailer is there for you guys to see what the film looks like, period, and end of story.
Ever distributor I've talked to said they would make their own to their tastes. Thanks guys!
emretufekci
Well-known member
ilauzirika
Boring Senior Member
I think that the best place to discuss about the trailer is a thread in the film discussion sub-forum. And leave this great thread for the (great) explanations that adams give.
Trailer
Trailer
Getting better Adam.
Why haven't you done a HD 1280 x 720 playout for Vimeo, it would make it look even better.
Trailer
Getting better Adam.
Why haven't you done a HD 1280 x 720 playout for Vimeo, it would make it look even better.
taormina
Hates to Rent
Getting better Adam.
Why haven't you done a HD 1280 x 720 playout for Vimeo, it would make it look even better.
What happend was that after we did the CC, the project was complete on a D5 tape. I asked them to burn me a DVD so I could then hand them out as screeners. I was also supposed to get the drive back with the entire film on it, but in the end, I left it there because we have som titling work to do.
So I cut the trailer from the DVD instead since it was supposed to be just for the net and to whet appetites.
The footage has not been represntative of the work done on the film....the color is more or less the same, although some levels are off. Blacks are way off and milky looking.
Matt Lear, my colorist, would **** bricks if he saw me hand that out. He worked on this movie for over 20 hours on a 2K Spirit Machine to get the looks just right. Thats at $375 per hour, amigos...just for that!
For now it's okay. It lets people get a taste for the film. One distributor showed me the way they said they were going to cut the trailer if I gave them the movie - I wasn't too thrilled with it but they have their own ideas so whatever.