History of P2 cards pricing

$3500+ for a 64??? Dang that's steep! I was patiently awaiting the 64 in hopes that I can bite the bullet and get 4 of these babies... Then I would be set for alot of my shoots, 4 hrs in 1080p or 10+ hrs in 720 24pn. I was anticipating the prices to shift once again, but nope... So how much will the 128 be? $7000? This is my personal opinion but I think that if Panasonic wanted to move more cameras in the P2 realm then they would continue to shift the pricing... I just think that the current pricing of the new 64s are way too high! The last I checked there still Is some healthy competition going on between the companies... I think If panny keeps making the P2 cards more expensive that they could be shooting themself in the foot, but once again this is just my opinion!
 
I was confused about the $3500 price too, is that US dollars or Aussie dollars?

I think the majority of this thread is from down under and the price was not in US dollars. I Hope :)
 
ChipG said:
I was confused about the $3500 price too, is that US dollars or Aussie dollars?

I think the majority of this thread is from down under and the price was not in US dollars. I Hope :)
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I would say that it is Australian dollars as they say plus GST.
Makes the Flash XDR look even better. CF cards in a raid config solves alot of problems.
 
Just my 2 pennies of thought but I think no one else other than the digital visual industry who uses P2 technologies. Therefore, no competing companies are showing much interest because the market share is too small. In that aspect, Panasonic has the upper hand and they can set the price at whatever range they want. I believe that's called monopoly.

Don't get me wrong, I like the P2 technology and the quality it delivers but...man, at $3500 a pop, that's a ridiculously high price to pay. We may argue to defend or object to the price of the P2 cards but I think deep in the hearts of all users such as myself, everyone wishes the price is a lot lower so we can run out and grab a bunch of them to shoot all day, maybe two days without having to worry about load, unload, and reload. That will definitely make me love my HPX500 even more.

That's my two pennies...well, maybe a nickel.
 
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Just out of interest where would everyone like to see the prices of P2 cards come down to or what they think would be a more affordable price for the 32 and the new 64gb.
 
Gary Parkinson said:
Just out of interest where would everyone like to see the prices of P2 cards come down to or what they think would be a more affordable price for the 32 and the new 64gb.
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Hi Gary,
I'd personally like them to fall to a region of $1,000 to $1500 AUD for the largest size out there, whether it be the 32's or 64's or maybe in future 128's ect.
All other forms of media/storage has fallen as production increases, this has not and May not happen to P2, the cost may just be it's epitaph, Hope I'm wrong I have invested a great deal in P2.

Looks like a long road ahead till prices fall. no doubt it will boost the "Hire" market.
cheers
Tom k
olinevideo.com.au
 
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Look... P2 prices have fallen drastically since I got my HVX in 2006.

Panasonic has indeed responded to the desires expressed here with the HMC-150 - a camera with the same optics and sensors as the HPX170, but using much cheaper media.

P2 still has advantages, and I've grow to trust it as a rock-solid recording system.

I bought a 4GB card with my HVX (my cam was delivered a week before Panny began bundling a free card!) for about $600 and suffered with that for more than a year (primarily recording direct to FCP). Then, I passed a threshold when I was able to buy 2 16GB P2 cards at about $770 each. I'd be very happy if the 32GB cards dropped to around the same price when the 64's come out!
 
Gary Parkinson said:
Just out of interest where would everyone like to see the prices of P2 cards come down to or what they think would be a more affordable price for the 32 and the new 64gb.
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$995.00 for a 64 gig card by year end, I know it won't happen but that is where I'd like to see them at. It's still a very expensive price to pay for 64 gigs of solid state memory.
 
I've only just had my HPX500 for a couple of months now, with it I purchased 2 x 32GB which worked out cheaper than buying 4 x 16GB. Thought I'd save those 2 extra slots for when the 64's arrive, but $7000Aus...I dont think so.
 
personally, I'd like to see the current trend continue.... 64s come out and the price goes down. So 64s for $1600 upon release moving the 32s to $900. And then when the 128s arrive then they can up it to $3000 (128). I just think the magic number here is 64.... I was so looking forward to always shooting in 1080 24p and with the 64s I could pull it off....4 hrs in 1080 would about cover all my shooting requirements in a day without the hassle of dumping to a laptop. Either continue with the price trend or give me an upgrade that will allow me to shoot in 1080 24pN so I can get the most out of my HPX500, that I'm still spending money on.
 
yup, 4x64 is i think more than enough :) as for the pricing - the cheaper the better, but i would expect 20-30% price drop with 64 inrtoduction.
 
lol hehe just joking - but its so depressing to see a thread so boring as to be entitled 'History of P2 cards pricing' always dominating the hpx500 sub topic!

Maybe we could change its name! Make it more exciting!
 
Rob Myers said:
Hi All,

The $3,200 is in Australian Dollars. Sorry to scare you even more...
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Hello Rob,
That's ex GST as well, Yikes , Crikey... I shoot in SD so I'll stay at the 32's and still use my Nnovia for the long form.
great thing about the Nnovia HDD is the transfer speed into the Mac is TEN times realtime, compared to Four times from the P2, that's a big advantage when it's a time critical shot, and having analogue in/out is very handy too.

Cheers
Tom K
olinevideo.com.au
 
NewYorkLion said:
Hey Tom 4,

what is that reader you are using in your signature?
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Hi NYL,
You can read about it on my web site, it's an Amtron budget P2 card reader solution for the Macpro on Leopard 10.5.5. Works great, having a tester in US "trial it" prior to release of a DIY kit.

Cheers
Tom K
olinevideo.com.au
 
It has been 3 years since I had shot a project that was none p2 till this month. I can say for one hate tape digitizing is no fun and two I realized how much money I have saved by not having to by tape stock. We dropped around $300 on tape stock for this one project and still have some follow up shooting to do next month.
 
I went through my records and in the 5 years we used the 610 we spent $6200 on tape stock. That included masters to the client.
 
MikeD said:
I went through my records and in the 5 years we used the 610 we spent $6200 on tape stock. That included masters to the client.
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Hello MikeD
By that equation, you could buy one 64gig and one 32gig and have some left over for "burgers , beer & babes" for the crew.
We have spent precious little also on tape stock over the past three years, now we only use DVCam 180 mins for archiving stock vision.

Cheers
Tom K
olinevideo.com.au
 
Tom 4 said:
Hello MikeD
By that equation, you could buy one 64gig and one 32gig and have some left over for "burgers , beer & babes" for the crew.
We have spent precious little also on tape stock over the past three years, now we only use DVCam 180 mins for archiving stock vision.

Cheers
Tom K
olinevideo.com.au
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Any babes wouldn't go to the crew :Drogar-Dum(DBG):
We do alot of shoots using 2 to 4 tapes a day and not always have the opportunity to dump vision as we go. One example is when we did a shoot for the helicopters doing the flights for indy last year. I had to be very mobile so the last thing I wanted was to be lugging around a laptop. There were times I couldn't even take the tripod with me.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=x83z5Km99OM&fmt=18

This is the basic cut that we gave to the pilots to say thanks.

If I was to do this shoot again I would probably use my XH-A1 as it is alot easier to put a couple of tapes in my pocket than pull $9000 out of it.
 
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