5DII DOES 1080P footage!!!!!!

good news and thanks for the info.

not to belabor the 24fps issue, but could you get a smooth output at 24fps? everything i attempt gives a choppy look. less video than 30fps, but, with large movement, pretty choppy. i'm getting a 5d, no question. i just really do like the 24fps look and would like to be able to mimic it since there is, maybe only subconsciously, a difference.
 
Rubbersquare said:
good news and thanks for the info.

not to belabor the 24fps issue, but could you get a smooth output at 24fps? everything i attempt gives a choppy look. less video than 30fps, but, with large movement, pretty choppy. i'm getting a 5d, no question. i just really do like the 24fps look and would like to be able to mimic it since there is, maybe only subconsciously, a difference.
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A difference + a very real need in PAL land !

We simply cannot get away with 30p without a messy (temporal) conversion.
 
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Great read,

The potential of DSLR HD video is very exciting !!!

Imagine:

- A Hot Shoe mounted 5" screen

- LED Ringlight

- Tilt Shift 24mm 45mm 90mm

- Super Telephotos

frisco


f64manray said:
Some very interesting comments about the 5D MKII from a pro:


I was able to get some time in our HD edit suite today, here's what I found so far:
The original h.264 files provided by Vincent Laforet imported perfectly (and quickly) directly into the Avid Symphony Nitris. No fancy conversions, they dropped right in. In fact, these files seem to be very efficient and should work well with most home editing solutions.
We imported at DNxHD 220 (compressed) and 8-bit and 10-bit 1 to 1 (uncompressed).
We checked the imported 1080p 30fps video on calibrated Panosonic BT-LH2600W LCD and a $12k Sony BVM-A20F1 CRT reference monitor/display. Video signal was checked on a Leader LV5800 multi-monitor scope.
The quality of the video was outstanding. It was close to impossible to see a difference between the compressed and uncompressed imports, so in the future we would use DNxHD 220 to save media space.
The clips were shot with manual focus (as they should have been for pro-level production values). The actors would occasionally miss their marks, but when they hit the focus plane, sharpness was stunning and film like, no line delays or artificial enhancement like is usually associated with typical HD video cameras.
It was a real revelation to see the footage play on something other than a computer screen at a reduced compressed size. After being prepaired to try the many options in the dual boot DS and other "tricks" for converting to a 24p "look," we didn't bother. 30fps progressive is not 30fps 1080i (which is 60 interlaced fields per second). On a "real" HD display, 30fps progressive is VERY film-like as each frame is a complete 2mp image. Any motion showed the film-like stepping, and motion blur on each frame adds a rich film quality, most observers thought it was a film transfer.
We're used to seeing top-notch HD production footage, much of it from film, on these same monitors, and the 5DII video was up there with the best we've seen, except for small compression artifacts (on VERY close inspection-video pixel peeping) and the tiny amount of high ISO noise. But we couldn't even imagine what ISO 1600 16mm film would have looked like.
I pulled 3 different experienced editors into the room to evaluate the clips. They all work with high-end HD video and super-16mm film transfered footage. They expected to be disappointed, but ended up excited and impressed. At first, several asked if the producer composited the shots to get the shallow DOF in the helicopter and "kissing" scenes.
And so far all we've seen is ISO 1600 with small hot lights, some battery powered.
The photographic lenses provide a very natural, organic sharpness when seen on larger screens, and the sharpness is very un-video-like.
The bad news is that I can see some union issues ahead. But in non-pro environments that won't matter.
When I can get back in the room we'll play with frame rates. But the lack of 24p is no longer an issue for me. 30fps progressive, from a 35mm-size low light-capable sensor is simply geourgeuos and well worth the ergonomic problems inherent in a DSLR video camera.
I see now why Vincent was so excited and spent his own money to demonstrate the potential of this video quality. If my company doesn't buy one of these cameras I'll make them use mine! It'll be very hard to go back to the flat, "everything is in focus," over sharpened video cameras we usually use.
I'm not a techie, but if you have questions I'll try to find the answers. Thanks for reading.
Sal
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I got my hands on one today, sadly the canon rep wouldnt let me take video from it with me and the battery was playing up, but I filmed a bit with it...didnt seem to react as badly to jiggling.
I asked the rep about 25 fps for pal land...he checked then said 30fps only, I moaned at him..he took notes.

thats about it really.

Maybe if everyone finds out when the canon reps european tour hits their local camera shop and does the same something will change.
 
Here a video that demos some of the 5D. Not alot here, but you do get a bit of the feel for the ergonomics and a shot of the screen controls during playback at 1:26.

Sigh, he spends ample time proving to this ###@%% that the 5D can take pictures while recording. How much more useful information would have been yielded if that was anybody from this board instead.

Here's the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVXLZih-9eQ&fmt=18
 
That video is from the Philippines.

In the notes they are saying the same thing:

"It is a shame because it doesn't come out until December."




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twocik23 said:
See this yet ? No 24fps, but look amazing !!

http://downloads.canon.com/CDLC/Reverie_Final_Cut2_midres.m4v
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your link doesn't work.



In other news, I found this. This was made before Laforet posted his video and appears to agree with Laforet's statements about 5DII exposure control I'm assuming the author must have got this from some official canon source:

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-9316-9607

"We're not certain about what the range of exposure controls on the 5D Mark II in video mode will be, though a few things are clear: shutter speed will be set automatically (between 1/30 and 1/125), any lens aperture can be selected, brightness can be locked prior to the commencement of video capture, or brightness can be controlled automatically by the camera. What facility there will be for adjusting exposure during recording, if any, we don't know. Nor have we been able to find out whether Canon has implemented the camera's automatic brightness control in a way that avoids the flickering brightness effect that shows up in some Nikon D90 video clips (and which disappears completely with that camera by locking the exposure)."
 
f64manray said:
your link doesn't work.



In other news, I found this. This was made before Laforet posted his video and appears to agree with Laforet's statements about 5DII exposure control I'm assuming the author must have got this from some official canon source:

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-9316-9607

"We're not certain about what the range of exposure controls on the 5D Mark II in video mode will be, though a few things are clear: shutter speed will be set automatically (between 1/30 and 1/125), any lens aperture can be selected, brightness can be locked prior to the commencement of video capture, or brightness can be controlled automatically by the camera. What facility there will be for adjusting exposure during recording, if any, we don't know. Nor have we been able to find out whether Canon has implemented the camera's automatic brightness control in a way that avoids the flickering brightness effect that shows up in some Nikon D90 video clips (and which disappears completely with that camera by locking the exposure)."
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Link works of you control click / option click to down load instead of just clicking on the link to play it in a browser window.
 
So, I am curious... IF I decided that I could work in 30p, or better yet if Canon gives it 24p or 25p, what are my options for mounting Nikon manual focus lenses to the 5DMKII?

I know there are converters but I know very little about them. I wouldn't want to sell all of my Nikon lenses etc just to have Nikon come out with a D400 or whatever thats better in February.
 
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