5DII DOES 1080P footage!!!!!!

It looks great, but the fact that all the samples were even more carefully shot and static then even the D90s sample movie is worrying. But it looks amazing, hopefully there is a bit more customization available then the D90 that many here have pointed out. These are exciting times.

Here's the Japanese 5DII site (same sample videos and nothing much new):
http://cweb.canon.jp/camera/5dmark2/index.html
 
Car3o said:
ahaha? 24fps will always be the choice when it comes to narrative filmmaking....weddings, docs, commercials, sports who gives...film camera's can be shot at any frame rate they want, but 24fps has been the choice and it won't change. you'd be crazy to think otherwise.

but hell, it's pointless to debate anymore...think what you want and i guess time will tell.
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Love You Car3o!


At some point the aesthetic will change.

By necessity or by a dominant marketing campaign in fight for market share.

Just the way it is.


I am not up for giving a history lesson but do you know what the film aspect ratio has changed over time?

The frame rate will be same same.


Plus, theaters are becoming a thing of the past so it will be the direct to device audience that makes the decisions from here on out.
 
30p is alright but I definitely have a feeling canon gimped it on purpose. Kind of like how the thing only has 9 autofocus points. They really don't want to step on the 1D series toes with this one. I can understand the mark 2 instead of calling a full on new number now.
 
ecking said:
30p is alright but I definitely have a feeling canon gimped it on purpose. Kind of like how the thing only has 9 autofocus points. They really don't want to step on the 1D series toes with this one. I can understand the mark 2 instead of calling a full on new number now.
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Great Point!

It really is Nikon's ball to see what they have the ability and balls to come up with.
 
I'm so poo pooing happy

I'm so poo pooing happy

Holy shi*!

This is a dream come true.

I'm watching a 1080p H.264 I downloaded off dpreview and it's stunning!

Go download those things!

The dynamic range is unbelievable. Car headlights aimed straight into the lens are still yellow!

It's 40.66 Mbit/s!

36x24mm! The closest I've come to this is a 1D Mark I, but that's still a 1.3 crop. Mostly I shoot a 20D with the 50mm f/1.4. With a 1.6 crop that 50mm looks more like a telephoto. I want the DoF of a 50mm lens at f/1.4 with the field of view of a 50mm lens, not an 80mm. The 5D Mark II delivers.

Audio input even! And 16-bit uncompressed at that! No manual level control, though. Sort of a hassle, but you could record to a Zoom H4 or a Tascam HD-P2 and run a line out from that into the Canon to help sync sound in post.

I couldn't be more excited about this thing.
 
ecking said:
30p is alright but I definitely have a feeling canon gimped it on purpose. Kind of like how the thing only has 9 autofocus points. They really don't want to step on the 1D series toes with this one. I can understand the mark 2 instead of calling a full on new number now.
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Everything is gimped on purpose. It is how market segments are defined. Look for a "mark 2" at twice the price.
 
You're crazy if you think 30p will be used for anything more than stylized narrative. AKA Home-Video look-a-like movies.
 
And Wikipedia says:



  • 30p, or 30-frame progressive, is a noninterlaced format and produces video at 30 frames per second. Progressive (noninterlaced) scanning mimics a film camera's frame-by-frame image capture and gives clarity for high speed subjects and a cinematic-like appearance. Shooting in 30p mode offers video with no interlace artifacts. The widescreen film process Todd-AO used this frame rate in 1954–1956. For video, this frame rate originated in the 1980s in the music video industry.[citation needed]
  • The 24p frame rate is also a noninterlaced format, and is now widely adopted by those planning on transferring a video signal to film. But film- and video-makers turn to 24p for the "cine"-look even if their productions are not going to be transferred to film, simply because of the "look" of the frame rate. When transferred to NTSC television, the rate is effectively slowed to 23.976 fps, and when transferred to PAL or SECAM it is sped up to 25 fps. 35 mm movie cameras use a standard exposure rate of 24 frames per second, though many cameras offer rates of 23.976 fps for NTSC television and 25 fps for PAL/SECAM. The frame rate became the de facto standard for sound motion pictures in the mid-1920s.[1]
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BTW: The movie samples from Canon look pretty nice.
 
Kholi said:
You're crazy if you think 30p will be used for anything more than stylized narrative. AKA Home-Video look-a-like movies.
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No Sir, you're crazy if you think 30p is gonna stop me from making a poo pooing masterpiece with this motherpoo pooer.

I could give a poo poo about 24p. Bresson, Ozu, Dreyer, they wouldn't have given a poo poo either!
 
Check the Todd-AO link in the wikipedia quote I posted earlier. It is very interesting regarding 30 fps and cinema.

It says:

The original version of the Todd-AO process used a frame rate of 30 per second, slightly faster than the 24 frames per second that was (and is) the standard. The difference does not seem great, but the sensitivity of the human eye to flickering declines steeply with frame rate and the small adjustment gave the film noticeably less flicker, and made it steadier and smoother than standard processes. Only the first two Todd-AO films, Oklahoma! and Around the World in Eighty Days, employed 30 frame/s photography.
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PaulM said:
No Sir, you're crazy if you think 30p is gonna stop me from making a poo pooing masterpiece with this motherpoo pooer.

I could give a poo poo about 24p. Bresson, Ozu, Dreyer, they wouldn't have given a poo poo either!
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I'm not saying you can't make a good video-looking masterpiece. Go check that Indiana Jones fan film. It's 30p...

Just be prepared to answer questions. Namely this one: why does it look like a soap opera, though?
 
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