The end of 35mm adapers and hv20s....

dave12781 said:
Are all camera guys such divas? Reading over this, you look like a bunch of whiney bitches judging a photographer's ability to shoot video... I mean... they hired him as a tester, and it looks like he had a lot of fun with this camera. After all, isn't that what this is all about? Or does everyone on here just need to be right all the time?
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reeer! hisssss!
 
dave12781 said:
Are all camera guys such divas? Reading over this, you look like a bunch of whiney bitches judging a photographer's ability to shoot video... I mean... they hired him as a tester, and it looks like he had a lot of fun with this camera. After all, isn't that what this is all about? Or does everyone on here just need to be right all the time?
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Dude, you're so page 39 of 47. Catch up and just enjoy the newest upload.
 
You can actually see it even with the slower pans. It's not nearly as bad and I didn't even see it the first time, but after I got past the really bad diagonal fast stuff, I watched the slower pans again and you can see it happening there. Check it out again. Look around the 1minute mark
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I am not going to worry about that amount of skew at that speed with so many positives going for this camera. I might not ever pan again! The overall image looks very good. And thats rough out of the camera I believe. As Mark Nicholson posted on Vimeo: " The skew really isnt really that worse than the EX1."
And if its good enough for Hunter Richards, a seasoned professional, is good enough for me.
 
Quick queston: Am I just off on what I think I rolling shutter is? I tested a bunch of machine vision and scientific cameras back 5 years ago before focal adapters, red, and even 3 chip HDV... if this shutter is rolling... it is no worse than the EX1. Only problem I see is the exposure, and if all I have to do is hold down a button... i can solve that problem with some tape, and a balled up picture of your father in drag.

cheers. Is argument is totally lame.
 
will the skew change at different shutter speeds?
and it wasn't that bad...to me.. when he panned...just like someone said, don't expect to film the next cloverfield...
or prive ryan, but your normal indie drama say "juno" this would be perfect
 
with all the little flaws I see in my own work, that go unnoticed by an audience, i'm willing to bet that the skew from a rolling shutter will just be another one of those things that will go entirely unnoticed by the audience at large.

I know I will see it, and that the more technically-minded filmmakers will see it, but i think an audience is (for the most part) only tuned in to character and story. everything else, like camerawork, is just the delivery method. and that you'd have to point it out for anyone to actually take notice.
 
Car3o said:
will the skew change at different shutter speeds?
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I was wondering the same thing. That's why I was hoping that we might find out the settings. The outdoor stuff with the kids on bikes was definitely a higher shutter speed than this and didn't show nearly the extreme amount of skew.
 
Exactly... do you honestly think you're going to be making the next big budget summer block buster with this thing. I'd say this for indoor with low light, and a 35mm adapter for outside shooting... especially with anything on a street with cars going past. That is where you'd really notice a rolling shutter.

Other wise... I have had my preorder in since the 27th.
 
Zak Forsman said:
with all the little flaws I see in my own work, that go unnoticed by an audience, i'm willing to bet that the skew from a rolling shutter will just be another one of those things that will go entirely unnoticed by the audience at large.

I know I will see it, and that the more technically-minded filmmakers will see it, but i think an audience is (for the most part) only tuned in to character and story. everything else, like camerawork, is just the delivery method. and that you'd have to point it out for anyone to actually take notice.
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eeeeeexactly.

for the love, ever really looked at the editing in goodfellas? weird jumps all over the place that break continuity. i was so caught up in the story i didn't even notice until someone pointed them out. maybe a little of an apples to oranges there, but point being, i gotta agree with zak's sentiment.
 
Zak Forsman said:
with all the little flaws I see in my own work, that go unnoticed by an audience, i'm willing to bet that the skew from a rolling shutter will just be another one of those things that will go entirely unnoticed by the audience at large.

I know I will see it, and that the more technically-minded filmmakers will see it, but i think an audience is (for the most part) only tuned in to character and story. everything else, like camerawork, is just the delivery method. and that you'd have to point it out for anyone to actually take notice.
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Agreed. It just means those using the D90 will need to be more controlled with their operating, and that's usually a good thing.
 
Oh well

Oh well

Regarding shutter speed....

I did not check it.

It was SLR camera and it was very intimidating.

I apologize.

Maybe with slower shutter speed, rolling shutter shows up less.

I don't know.

By the way, the lens was 80mm prime lens and it was closed down to F11.

And I did not find out about shuuter.... Bummer.
 
I just showed the clip to my girlfriend and told her to have a close look at it. I asked her to tell me if she sees anything unusual. She didn't until I pointed it out... I guess it is not immediately noticeable if you don't know what to look for...
 
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