The end of 35mm adapers and hv20s....

because i think it was amatuer photographers using the camera....there are 4 videos that definitely dont have changing exposures...girl in park, girls talking, girl drinking coffee and peole walking in street....none of those have flicker...that i can tell
 
Texanite said:
The embryo of the Scarlet? I don't know about that. The D90 is the embryo of what the Scarlet ISN'T.
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that's what i'm saying. 35mm nikon glass trumps 3K in my book. i'm not saying the d90 beats what we believe scarlet to be, but it's pointing in that direction. basically if a year or two go by and we have a comparable compression ratio to what the hvx offers and 1080 resolution, i'll take that with nikon lenses and great light sensitivity over 3k any day. especially since everything i'm doing at this point in my career is pretty much just going to be viewed on dvd or bluray.

don't flame me. i know i'm not giving scarlet all its due props. just saying. this is huge.
 
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dpreview says the exposure can be locked, another page says it is always automatic, and yet another page says you set the iso/shutter/ and iris before pressing record and it stays the same during the entire recording (as in all manual). We might just have to wait and see on this one, I am still buying it , like I said, I need a new home video camera anyways...
 
Texanite said:
The embryo of the Scarlet? I don't know about that. The D90 is the embryo of what the Scarlet ISN'T. The D90 is already offering things that everybody wishes the Scarlet would: It's a third of the price, it has a bigger sensor and takes 35mm lenses instead of having a fixed zoom. This isn't a baby version of the Scarlet. In these things, it's already surpassed what the Scarlet is offering.

It's the very first of what will be relatively inexpensive cameras that shoot HD video with large sensors and take 35mm lenses. Nikon D100 FTW!
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How can this surpass something when it's so limited in scope. Albeit awesome in it's added quality to a still camera, but it's going to have limited professional attributes that even an entry level camcorder will have.. It only shoots 24p, the audio is going to be horrible, it won't be able to adjust shutter, iris, zoom and that. Zooming a still lens... good luck with that one. Overall, there's very little that can be done to get smooth operation as it will be piddly and tempermental at best. Work arounds will be required like with the HV20 and such. Now, I think it's the start of what might happen but a camera will have to make more consessions on the video side to make it an option..

personally it's more of a still camera that does video and not what Scarlett offers. Being able to shoot 180 Frames a second is so badass I can almost spit... This item is awsome and I want one, but not as a video camera replacement..



A simple look at the specs does not a camera make. There has to be a functionality and an elegance to it's operation..
 
The Nikon D90 should not be stripped down as much as it actually should be recognized as a window of what's to come. Nikon has took a major bold step; outside of that it was RED with its price point for performance jump that changed a lot of how things will be from now on.

Now comes Nikon with a long history and wherewithal* to deliver outstanding products. Nikon realeasing the first in affordable large frame HD acquisition with Nikon as well 3rd party lens options, at the same time getting us away from the compromise imposed by technical limitations of 35mm adapters & small chips cameras, means over time the D90, as well future version and it's competition will be a welcomed step in the right direction. Im sure some issues will get firmware dealt with on the current model. Some need to see that this is a major step forward, and there's no going back. We have two choices; we could over analyze the D90, or recognizes this is a good beginning to even better future.

Like someone mentioned earlier, wait tell some DVXusers get the D90 and produce out-standing creative projects, instead of hindering themselves and their creative drive about what the D90 isn't. I for one look forward to seeing some awesome footage and projects from others.

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what i've learned is a good dp (or other tech person) can get an amazing image from just about anything. heck, a series of still images run together can tell an amazing story. artists are not defined by their medium; the medium just makes it easier for more people to try to be artists.
 
I just love the idea of "filming" discreetly, I allready shoot 1/2 of the time without permits, This would make stealth shooting so easy

...I keep on having to ask my self if I am dreaming all of this, did nikon really make a mini cinema camera on accident?
 
laugh, didn't even think about discreet shooting. it's not some big hunk gadget on yourshoulder or tripod..people will just think, "hey, they're just taking pictures"

but yeah, there's no way this was an accident especially when they seem to be pushing "shallow depth of field" in almost all the tech/specs
 
downloaded the sampled one and just graded it to see how it'll look like, just thought i might share it with you all.
 
If it really interpolates the whole frame, rather than cropping--which seems to be the case--that implies that all sites are sampled, then downconverted to 720. And if that is also the case, it opens the door to an Andromeda-like conversion where the pixel info is taken before the Motion JPEG compression. But of course, "interpolation" can have many meanings...

Umcompressed, Super35 image size, with a PL mount, for maybe $4000? Yeah, I could live with a rolling shutter...

Juan! We need you!!
 
I had finally decided on a Canon HF 100 with 35mm adapter until I saw this thread tonight. Now, as a newbie, I'm undecided again. What's the right choice given a budget of $1500? What will I gain or be giving up going to the D90?

Also, if recording is 5 or 20 min at a time, how long of rest period before engaging another shoot?

I have grown to admire Nikon for over 30 years now as a still photographer, well aware of the quality.

Thanks.
 
wait until the camera actually comes out.

Okeefe said:
I had finally decided on a Canon HF 100 with 35mm adapter until I saw this thread tonight. Now, as a newbie, I'm undecided again. What's the right choice given a budget of $1500? What will I gain or be giving up going to the D90?

Also, if recording is 5 or 20 min at a time, how long of rest period before engaging another shoot?

I have grown to admire Nikon for over 30 years now as a still photographer, well aware of the quality.

Thanks.
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I would think the sensor is being sampled in a pixel binning method- I doubt the d90 has the processing power to process 4k+ images @ 24 fps. BUT! I am sure you can hack the bit rate on these things, just like those crazy group of camera hackers did with the canon powershot series. We are going to need a firmware decoder for this camera!


Dan Vance said:
If it really interpolates the whole frame, rather than cropping--which seems to be the case--that implies that all sites are sampled, then downconverted to 720. And if that is also the case, it opens the door to an Andromeda-like conversion where the pixel info is taken before the Motion JPEG compression. But of course, "interpolation" can have many meanings...

Umcompressed, Super35 image size, with a PL mount, for maybe $4000? Yeah, I could live with a rolling shutter...

Juan! We need you!!
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slimchrisp said:
that's what i'm saying. 35mm nikon glass trumps 3K in my book. i'm not saying the d90 beats what we believe scarlet to be, but it's pointing in that direction. basically if a year or two go by and we have a comparable compression ration to what the hvx offers and 1080 resolution, i'll take that with nikon lenses and great light sensitivity over 3k any day. especially since everything i'm doing at this point in my career is pretty much just going to be viewed on dvd or bluray.

don't flame me. i know i'm not giving scarlet all its due props. just saying. this is huge.
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There's a huge number of people who work as photographers and camera operators and when a DSLR finally manage to provide quality digital video this line will start to merge, as will these 2 fields of work...if the market is agressive right now, just wait a few years. I can see A LOT of people going out of business.
I absolutely love the idea of a DSLR that can provide quality HDV/HD, but it's just a hobby for me...
 
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I knew it would happen.
 
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