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I changed the plastic buckles to steel on the vest, the rest is a great value for the money.
Would buy it anytime again.
Frank
Superb new shoulder mount. Best yet
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I changed the plastic buckles to steel on the vest, the rest is a great value for the money.
Would buy it anytime again.
Frank
Ron Rodenmeyer
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Correct, I'm not using a Bogen/Manfrotto tripod. I have a Cartoni Focus. One thing I'm not clear on...I don't think the DVRig Pro has a Manfrotto plate. It's a silver lightweight aluminum plate that looks proprietary. It's slotted on one side for balancing the camera.
philip bloom
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it is the same size. i own the dv rig pro.
this is what you need, two if you go for the cine city. one if you stick with your dv rig pro
http://www.h1photo.com/357.html
this is what you need, two if you go for the cine city. one if you stick with your dv rig pro
http://www.h1photo.com/357.html
Lenilenapi
Carbonite Member
I've been doing the same thing as Philip with a few giotto quick releases for years with my monopod.
I also use it as an extra "triangulation" support with 2/3" shoulder mounted cams and I can often get the quick release mounted up in the 1/4" screw that you'll find at the front many full sized camera base plates. It often doesn't interfere with the tripod plate and I can go back & forth from tripod to handheld + monopod with ease.
Its hard to remember to bring all the right parts though and it can get a bit odd as I've found myself using a sony camera on my shoulder with the flat base plate on my shoulder.
I also use it as an extra "triangulation" support with 2/3" shoulder mounted cams and I can often get the quick release mounted up in the 1/4" screw that you'll find at the front many full sized camera base plates. It often doesn't interfere with the tripod plate and I can go back & forth from tripod to handheld + monopod with ease.
Its hard to remember to bring all the right parts though and it can get a bit odd as I've found myself using a sony camera on my shoulder with the flat base plate on my shoulder.
Ron Rodenmeyer
Well-known member
Thanks, Phillip! What DON'T you own? LOL
Again, you are a wealth of information and I enjoy your blog very much.
I have the DVRig Pro at work but may get the Cinecity for personal use.
Ron
philip bloom
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cheers Ron! It's worth it. So cheap really for the quality and the ease of use.
Buck Forester
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Wow, I ordered mine and it came already... they really get on it! It's very simple and light with lots of adjustments... I put it together but haven't gone out and shot with my EX1 yet... dang 115 degree heat and smoke filled skies from these wildfires is taking it's toll on me. Cough... cough...
Ron Rodenmeyer
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I put an order in to The Cine City a week ago and didn't hear a word outside of a prompt email that said it would "dispatch tomorrow". Yesterday, I emailed to check status and I received a reply that they only had my P.O. Box (billing address) and needed a street address. The fact that it took a week --and my email prompting them-- to request this was a bit galling.
Also, the email he sent included their original correpondence, which included the invoice. My street address was clearly listed in the Shipping section. Argghhhh!
Based on everyone else's experiences, I'm going to assume this is a rare glitch.
Ron
Also, the email he sent included their original correpondence, which included the invoice. My street address was clearly listed in the Shipping section. Argghhhh!
Based on everyone else's experiences, I'm going to assume this is a rare glitch.
Ron
Buck Forester
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Ron, sorry to hear that. I don't know anything about the company or their usual practices so I can't say. For me I ordered it and it arrived within 3 or 4 days and I didn't even use an express shipping method. And I think it came from India or someplace far far away. I still haven't used the product yet other than putting it together. It seems durable enough but it's also obviously not precision made, but at this price I wasn't expecting it to be.
I ordered one direct from CineCity and I swear it got here to the midwest in about 36 hours. I was floored as to how fast they got it to me. As Philip said, it is strong, well built and inexpensive. I'd change a couple of minor things, personally (longer extension, slotted nuts, larger knurls on knobs), but a very good value!
I DO have a slight issue with mine: I cannot get the main hinge point to tighten up enough. No matter how tight I turn the large knob, I cannot get the brace to "lock" into position -- it moves with weight on it (which of course it does, with camera). Any bright ideas on how I can fix this without sending it back?
I DO have a slight issue with mine: I cannot get the main hinge point to tighten up enough. No matter how tight I turn the large knob, I cannot get the brace to "lock" into position -- it moves with weight on it (which of course it does, with camera). Any bright ideas on how I can fix this without sending it back?
Ron Rodenmeyer
Well-known member
After the initial flub, Cine City shipped the shoulder support, and it arrived in the states very quickly. Then FedEx had some issue with it at customs, and I played phone tag with them for a few days before it was mysteriously resolved. Sometimes everything just goes exactly wrong.
As far as the shoulder support goes, I generally agree with previous assessments in this thread: It's well designed and decently constructed for a piece of equipment at this price point. I also can't get the big nut to tighten fully, and the whole thing sometimes pivots slightly when I move. But it's not terrible or a deal killer. I also wish the "belly" rod would extend a little more. The thing that concerns me the most about Gliders (that's the actual name...very goofy!) is the tiny thumbscrew that supports the vertical slider under the camera plate. It just looks like something that will be stripped out in a week. I hope not. The shoulder mount is a little bit uncomfortable in the back, but I haven't tried to bend it yet. Has anyone done this? Finally, I was pleasantly suprised that it comes with rail mounts. Very nice detail. I may have to get a rail system/matte box from them. Has anyone tried the matte box from Cine City?
The main point is that I predict we will use this support a LOT.
Ron
As far as the shoulder support goes, I generally agree with previous assessments in this thread: It's well designed and decently constructed for a piece of equipment at this price point. I also can't get the big nut to tighten fully, and the whole thing sometimes pivots slightly when I move. But it's not terrible or a deal killer. I also wish the "belly" rod would extend a little more. The thing that concerns me the most about Gliders (that's the actual name...very goofy!) is the tiny thumbscrew that supports the vertical slider under the camera plate. It just looks like something that will be stripped out in a week. I hope not. The shoulder mount is a little bit uncomfortable in the back, but I haven't tried to bend it yet. Has anyone done this? Finally, I was pleasantly suprised that it comes with rail mounts. Very nice detail. I may have to get a rail system/matte box from them. Has anyone tried the matte box from Cine City?
The main point is that I predict we will use this support a LOT.
Ron
HowdyDoo
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El Cheapo, Glider, _______ for World Travel?
El Cheapo, Glider, _______ for World Travel?
I may be shooting a couple episodes of a travel show and need a cheap, lightweight shoulder support for my EX1. I really don't want anything big and conspicuous that will bring a lot of attention to the camera, but I also don't want something that is so uncomfortable that it's not even worth wearing.
Do you think the El Cheapo or The Glider would work well for my purposes? From the pictures I've seen, the Glider seems to look a little too strange and may turn heads.
Any suggestions?
El Cheapo, Glider, _______ for World Travel?
I may be shooting a couple episodes of a travel show and need a cheap, lightweight shoulder support for my EX1. I really don't want anything big and conspicuous that will bring a lot of attention to the camera, but I also don't want something that is so uncomfortable that it's not even worth wearing.
Do you think the El Cheapo or The Glider would work well for my purposes? From the pictures I've seen, the Glider seems to look a little too strange and may turn heads.
Any suggestions?
lazslo mckenzie
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you may also like the IMAGE2000 by birns & sawyer. there are one and twohandle versions. here's an example: http://www.filmtools.com/im20haglshsu.html
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Jason Davenport
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I concur. I love my rig, and don't need the belly support, that would seem to effect your shot when walking (breathing etc.)
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EIREHotspur
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Thats a very Pro Looking setup lads.
I have tried shooting with camera strap around my neck and camera down around my side.....kinda like an UZI stance.
Would be great if I was a shao lin monk who could control breathing.
I have tried shooting with camera strap around my neck and camera down around my side.....kinda like an UZI stance.
Would be great if I was a shao lin monk who could control breathing.
Jose
Active member
I have the same Cavision bracket. Question: How do you mount it on the tripod?
Do you have a quick release?
Thank you,
Jose
Jason Davenport
Well-known member
I have the VF gadgets plate with rod mount, and I must remove the shoulder pad to go on tripod.
But I just leave on the rod mount part of the shoulder mount on the rails so I only need to loosen one mounting point to remove pad.
But I just leave on the rod mount part of the shoulder mount on the rails so I only need to loosen one mounting point to remove pad.
Tata Steva
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Cine City Support Rig= Cr@p
Cine City Support Rig= Cr@p
Yes, it is a cr@p piece of gear: I ordered one by eBay from Cine City (after seeing "recommendation" from Mr. Bloom), and after receiving the piece I think strongly that Mr. Bloom is somehow compensated to promote this lousy accessory.
None of the screws were proper, so called "camera mount" was bended, I could not lock the main support, not to slide after putting the camera on it. Forget on figuring out anything form the manual: it's like a xerox copy from the corner store. I still don't know why I got whole bunch of screws and bolts in a separate plastic bag??
And the biggest flaw: main connection between the camera mount part and shoulder/body support part is PLASTIC, connected by ONE cheap screw!!!
After 2 days of trying to "fix it" I contacted Cine City for refund and than problems started. It took me one whole month to get the refund and to explain to eBay that I paid for the item, because Cine City kept on sending complaints to eBay that I did not pay for it (After they gave me the refund)??!!
They also told me to keep the product as customs in India are too high for them to receive it back.
All in all, after this episode I am not trusting Mr. Bloom on any product recommendation. He is a great DP, but "spokes person"- I don't know...:crybaby:
Cine City Support Rig= Cr@p
Yes, it is a cr@p piece of gear: I ordered one by eBay from Cine City (after seeing "recommendation" from Mr. Bloom), and after receiving the piece I think strongly that Mr. Bloom is somehow compensated to promote this lousy accessory.
None of the screws were proper, so called "camera mount" was bended, I could not lock the main support, not to slide after putting the camera on it. Forget on figuring out anything form the manual: it's like a xerox copy from the corner store. I still don't know why I got whole bunch of screws and bolts in a separate plastic bag??
And the biggest flaw: main connection between the camera mount part and shoulder/body support part is PLASTIC, connected by ONE cheap screw!!!
After 2 days of trying to "fix it" I contacted Cine City for refund and than problems started. It took me one whole month to get the refund and to explain to eBay that I paid for the item, because Cine City kept on sending complaints to eBay that I did not pay for it (After they gave me the refund)??!!
They also told me to keep the product as customs in India are too high for them to receive it back.
All in all, after this episode I am not trusting Mr. Bloom on any product recommendation. He is a great DP, but "spokes person"- I don't know...:crybaby:
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