HVX200a Improved 60i Standard Def?
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Michael T
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I have never had a problem with aliasing or jaggies with 60i on my HVX200. If your viewing the footage on a lcd screen it will seem to have aliasing going on because of interlacing but its the lcd screen and if you have a way to watch it on a analog monitor it will look fine. For sd video for broadcast you have to use a color correct monitor so you know what your going to get when its aired or output to dvd.
Ted Spencer
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I've heard the issue was improved upon. More knowledgeable folks will weigh in on this I'm sure...
Barry_Green
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170 looked to be quite a bit better. Didn't notice on the 200A.
adamr316
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Michael,
I was viewing footage with the 200 hooked to my analog television. When I used the HVX200 in 60i 4:3 mode (I think I was shooing DVCPro50) there were considerable jaggies in the image. Twittering is another way to describe it and this is the same effect that appears when making graphics with fine lines. It was so bad it was unusable (all settings such as detail were at their defaults so dialing down something could have helped). In 24p 4:3 mode the twittering went away. With 1080/60i footage there is none of this visual junk.
That's good to hear that the 170 has improved upon this. If there are any 200A users out there who could test this please let me know. I'm planning on buying either a HVX200A or Sony EX-1 in the next few days and am trying to decide (the EX1 simply doesn't do straight out of the camera and certainly not 4:3).
I was viewing footage with the 200 hooked to my analog television. When I used the HVX200 in 60i 4:3 mode (I think I was shooing DVCPro50) there were considerable jaggies in the image. Twittering is another way to describe it and this is the same effect that appears when making graphics with fine lines. It was so bad it was unusable (all settings such as detail were at their defaults so dialing down something could have helped). In 24p 4:3 mode the twittering went away. With 1080/60i footage there is none of this visual junk.
That's good to hear that the 170 has improved upon this. If there are any 200A users out there who could test this please let me know. I'm planning on buying either a HVX200A or Sony EX-1 in the next few days and am trying to decide (the EX1 simply doesn't do straight out of the camera and certainly not 4:3).
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TedRR
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I've always said the only problem I have with the HVX is in 480 60i mode. It IS a problem.
I did a quick test with our new 200-A and I think it's better, but still there. I wasn't specifically testing that though so I won't make any claims yet.
I've been buying and testing all sorts of new gear the last couple months, but maybe I'll do a real test soon. Sometime between midnight and 8am.
I did a quick test with our new 200-A and I think it's better, but still there. I wasn't specifically testing that though so I won't make any claims yet.
I've been buying and testing all sorts of new gear the last couple months, but maybe I'll do a real test soon. Sometime between midnight and 8am.
Thought i'd just bring this up cause i dont know if its just me.. but i just finished shooting a rally at DVCPRO50 50i.. and am back in the suites now. Had a look at it on the computers LCD and yes, horrible jaggies.. but as soon as you put it on a CRT broadcast.. it looks fine. Its just an LCD thing i guess..
adamr316
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Joe,
That's odd because I viewed my 4:3 DVCPro 50 footage with a regular consumer CRT television and it was jaggy city. Maybe 50i is different from 60i footage in some way? I was viewing the footage directly from the camera hooked to the TV so maybe that could be it too but the HD footage downconverted on the same TV looked fine/jaggy free albeit squashed ;-)
I was using a Firestore 100 drive so there was no setting to unsquash it to my knowledge.
That's odd because I viewed my 4:3 DVCPro 50 footage with a regular consumer CRT television and it was jaggy city. Maybe 50i is different from 60i footage in some way? I was viewing the footage directly from the camera hooked to the TV so maybe that could be it too but the HD footage downconverted on the same TV looked fine/jaggy free albeit squashed ;-)
I was using a Firestore 100 drive so there was no setting to unsquash it to my knowledge.