Anyone used both Red and HVX footage in a project?

there's a webseries coming out that my friend shot. He used HVX for 2nd unit and Red for first Unit. Will try to get you a link if any footage is ready.
 
who cares? ever paint a picture? what brush did you use?
a good director, producer, dp. they can juxtapose VHS next to panavision and make it work.

it's all just tools.

crappy story. crappy composition. crappy camera work. best camera in the world aint gonna help any of that.
 
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wgzn said:
who cares? ever paint a picture? what brush did you use?
a good director, producer, dp. they can juxtapose VHS next to panavision and make it work.

it's all just tools.

crappy story. crappy composition. crappy camera work. best camera in the world aint gonna help any of that.
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Nice post - I concur.
 
wgzn said:
who cares? ever paint a picture? what brush did you use?
a good director, producer, dp. they can juxtapose VHS next to panavision and make it work.

it's all just tools.

crappy story. crappy composition. crappy camera work. best camera in the world aint gonna help any of that.
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I agree - up to a certain point. The part I disagree with is the "it's all just tools". To use your painting scenario - yes, I've painted several pictures. I used a large variety of different brushes of different textures, widths and sizes. I need the exact tool for a job. VHS is a paint roller. Sure, with a lot of extra effort you could paint a landscape but it would never, ever look as good as if you use the right tools.

The same with cinema, if somebody used HVX footage and 35mm film and then intercut it with VHS it could potentially kill the production for me. The story might be good enough to save it but the jarring shift in quality would pull me out of my disbelief suspension, unless it was all planned that way and the mix was intentional - but that would need a very specific purpose that wouldn't fit most projects.

In short - the right skills enforce and enhance any tool, but you still need the right tools for the job. I do agree that the right tools are useless if the skills aren't there, though. That doesn't mean that somebody's concern that two different cameras won't match up well enough isn't valid.
 
wgzn said:
who cares? ever paint a picture? what brush did you use?
a good director, producer, dp. they can juxtapose VHS next to panavision and make it work.

it's all just tools.

crappy story. crappy composition. crappy camera work. best camera in the world aint gonna help any of that.
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the original poster didn't even get that deep, he's just curious of how the footage matches, the first two replies answered his question....why go into a rant? who said he wanted to know in regards to filming a movie anyway? it could be for a client project for all you know.
 
oxrs said:
I agree - up to a certain point. The part I disagree with is the "it's all just tools". To use your painting scenario - yes, I've painted several pictures. I used a large variety of different brushes of different textures, widths and sizes. I need the exact tool for a job. VHS is a paint roller. Sure, with a lot of extra effort you could paint a landscape but it would never, ever look as good as if you use the right tools.

The same with cinema, if somebody used HVX footage and 35mm film and then intercut it with VHS it could potentially kill the production for me. The story might be good enough to save it but the jarring shift in quality would pull me out of my disbelief suspension, unless it was all planned that way and the mix was intentional - but that would need a very specific purpose that wouldn't fit most projects.

In short - the right skills enforce and enhance any tool, but you still need the right tools for the job. I do agree that the right tools are useless if the skills aren't there, though. That doesn't mean that somebody's concern that two different cameras won't match up well enough isn't valid.
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A voice of reason : )
 
oxrs said:
In short - the right skills enforce and enhance any tool, but you still need the right tools for the job. I do agree that the right tools are useless if the skills aren't there, though. That doesn't mean that somebody's concern that two different cameras won't match up well enough isn't valid.
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i agree. quote of the day :)
 
I do agree with the statements made; quality of camera doesn't matter squat unless what you point the camera at works in terms of performance, aesthetic, frame, movement and technical understanding.

I'm just curious to see what people have done combining the HVX and Red together. Also the reasons for using the HVX for those shots as apposed to the Red would be interesting?

I was hoping to find some footage that could alay the fears of some investors who may question my reasons for combining the two as I move in to pre.

Thanks again all of the replies have been insightful.
 
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