What does the DVX have that the HV-20 doesn't?

Showing up @ a clients shoot with an HV20 is simply not an option. I would be embarrassed to pull that thing out and place it on my tripod. Not that i'm knocking the image quality of that camera, but when I charge a client a decent dollar to shoot a video, the last thing I want them to think is "gee, my son could have done this with his camera".

It's a big box store consumer camera...period. The DVX image quality is very pleasing to the eye, whether 24p, 30p, or 60i. The 24f mode that canon turns out does not look as good as 24p. Sure, the resolution is great, but to me it still looks like video.

Steve
 
Hey, not to be condescending or anything. (not like most people here aren't)

But some people can't afford a DVX. The HV20 produces a nice image. I have used it on a few press conferences. Of course I get a little chuckle because my mic is larger than the camera - but I can set up in smaller locations that the ENG units can't get to. Which means, I can sneak into places where the guys with the ENGs can't get to. Such as everyone crowded around a single individual. Only so many big cameras can fit in that spot. I have also shot it on a few short films here and there. It held up nice.

I mean, I would rather be shooting with an F900, F23 or 16mm, as I typically do. But that would be like me saying, you don't own an F23? Wow, you suck, you aren't a film maker. All you own is a commercial toy.

Fact of the matter is, people shoot with what they shoot. I have seen images with an HV20 that look amazing. I have seen images on a DVX that suck. Just because you own an HV20 in your arsenal doesn't make you a joke.

Just a little bit of stuff to think about.
 
Mattykins said:
I have used it on a few press conferences.
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Hi,

Not to mention that there are a few places I've been where it would be ignored and other, more professional cameras wouldn't.

I don't think that either camera does so much, but the guy or gal behind it is what counts.
 
also, 3 CCD's which don't fall victim of the infamous rolling shutter artifacts associated with CMOS sensors.
 
People often do not take the dvx seriously. Often they think ur like a skateboarder. They say, "do you ride your skateboard and film other skateboarders." Nothing is wrong with skate/bmx vids, but this is a real tool. Maybe that;s good, maybe its bad.
 
yommytacoe said:
...Lately i've been thinking about selling the HV20 and putting some of that money toward buying a DVX or XL2. HD is completely worthless to me....
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I know you say HD is completely worthless but it's future proof. I'm considering going back to an XL2 but for the same price I can get an XH-A1 and shoot SD and/or HD. I do however like the interchangeable lens option though. I guess I still haven't made up my mind.
 
renegadewill said:
People often do not take the dvx seriously. Often they think ur like a skateboarder. They say, "do you ride your skateboard and film other skateboarders." Nothing is wrong with skate/bmx vids, but this is a real tool. Maybe that;s good, maybe its bad.
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Realize that you're belittling the HV20 in the same way that you mention people don't take the DVX seriously.
 
It just depends, for people that know video they take the dvx seriously, but practically no one takes the hv20 seriously. And yes I have really gotten those questions, but I have shot a skate vid with it, so who knows.
 
An HV20 with a full set up, Mattebox, 35mm adapter and whatnot it is going to look professional. Really, does the camera size matter on set?

And by your definition, everything looks unprofessional when talking about Panavisions, CineAltas, and ENG units. It is true that large cameras look professional. However, again - The HV20 can and has produced amazing images. SO has the DVX. But, the DVX has produced some terrible images. You can have a CineAlta and still make a terrible image.

I mean, if you want to discount the HV20 because it isn't a massive camera, then fine. But fact of the matter is, you can get a good image. And yes, I have brought the HV20 stock to a press conference and got weird looks. But then again, I can interview other people behind the scenes. Get places traditional press could get to. And yes, DVX's and HVX's make appearances on the press scenes too.
 
DVX will not solve your small camera perception. If you are going to work with clients who have to see a big camera then get an HPX 300, or a Varicam or a RED.

This is really a non issue. In 10 years I have never had a client say. Can I see your camera. They have always asked for a demo, references, and resumes.

Both of these cameras are great and they are completely different. Don't evaluate camera choice on how sexy it looks on a tripod.

Evaluate your need...Evaluate your budget...select tool.

This is how it should be done. Use your work to impress people not your camera.

They are both very capable little cameras.

Good Luck
 
I'm going to start gutting broken dvx bodies and stuffing hv30s in them.

Then the camera size envy can be put to rest :D
 
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