Filmed Green Screen on 1080i/30fps...

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I shot with the HVX200 and filmed it on P2 with 1080i at 30 frames per second. The lighting seemed to be pretty good, but I am having some difficulty keying out the green screen. I have after effects, but I was wondering if I can do chroma key in Final Cut Pro and get a good result or should I just use After Effects? Also, do I have to deinterlace the video before I key out the green?

What do you think would be the best workflow and I would appreciate any reccommendations on green screen tutorials. I've seen some on youtube, but I am trying to find more detailed step by step tutorials for keying out green screen in both After Effects and Final Cut Pro.
 
tell us about your shooting/lighting setup. or post some screen shots. without that, we cant really help you much.

FCPs built in keyer is crap - even if the lighting was great.
After Effects keylight is really good and pretty simple. but if you didnt light the setup properly, NOTHING is going to get you where you want to be...

i personally use dv garage's dvmatte pro in FCP and it does everything i need.

BTW, just for conversation sake. if you shot on P2 you didnt "film" anything - ; )
 
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I shot with 2 worklights lighting the green screen. A softbox and bounce board for the subject and a backlight for the subject. I am going to use After Effects probably, so can someone please tell me a link or a place to check out for tutorials on keying out green screen?

WGZN- So you think keylight in After Effects would be a good way of going? Is that more complicated than color key? I don't care if it takes longer, as long as the final product has better quality.

One more question is, does the Apple Store or any other computer store sell tutorials on keying out green screen?
 
two worklights isnt even close to enough light for the screen. unless youre doing a VERY TIGHT headshot.

keying greenscreen isnt really that complicated. its just a matter of:

- the right green material
- lighting the screen AND the talent sufficiently (which it sounds like you more or less did not)

beyond that, its just a matter of your software tool of choice. keylight is GREAT. but like i said above. if you didnt light properly - you roll the dice.

can you post screen grabs?
 
Two 500w worklights would be enough for an 8x10 screen in most circumstances.
You should be able to find enough good help for greenscreening with the forum search and google.
 
wgzn- I think I am going to use the DV Matte Pro plugin for Final Cut, but I wanted to ask if you think this will do as good of a job as After Effects will? If not, what is the best plugin for keying out green in Final Cut Pro? It would save me a lot of time if I could key out in FCP v.s. After Effects. So I guess it comes down to how DV Matte Pro compares to the alternatives. What would you guys recommend?
 
ive used both methods and i wont lie - keying in after effects is great, but from a workflow standpoint i find it easier to key in FCP.

dvmatte pro is great. i havent seen anything done in after effects that dv matte cant do just as well. as far as im concerned dv matte pro is the best thing going for under a grand.
 
I've had GREAT results using ULTRA... I first got it years ago before Serious Magic was bought out by ADOBE... I used it to upgrade to CS-3 which has Ultra bundled along with After Effects, Premier and what used to be DV RACK (direct to disk recorder).
Ultra allows you to get good looking keys from marginal recordings or great keys from well lit stuff. It's definitely worth it as a stand alone. The only hitch is that you have to export a file and deal with it and then save it with the Alpha channel adn then back to your editing program... I do a final cut and only key the specific shots I need to do... don't forget to add the footage at the ends to cover transitions.
Cheers
Dale
 
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