New HVX?

[Davthedvdman]

Wrong. There will be plenty of broadcasting of SD. There is not now, nor has there ever been, nor will there ever likely be, a mandate that the USA go to HD.

The changeover in February is to digital broadcasting, not to high-def broadcasting.

Remember the internet delivery still going to have SD life. I plan to upgrade my Sony PD 150 and 170 to a HDV similar. I have a HVX planning on another or a HPX 500. I am sending those two cameras to internet channels.
SD still has life.:love4:

 

[Barry_Green]

soon finding your favorite film on dvd will be as hard as finding it on vhs, now that blue ray has won

Soon?

I don't remember the exact numbers, but I believe that it's something like that more copies of a new release movie are sold on standard-def DVD, on the first day of release, than have been sold of all titles of HD-DVD and blu-ray combined since those formats came into existence.

As long as we're making predictions, I'll go on record: Standard-def DVD will be with us 5 years from now as the vast majority format that movies are delivered on, and will still be sold and supported 10 years from now. Blu-ray, on the other hand, will never catch on as a mass market product. It'll be supplanted by either online video distribution, or some new alternative format such as a "red ray" from Red, or some high-def red-laser alternative from the Chinese manufacturers (who are currently shut out of blu-ray manufacturing).

so I doubt any company including panasonic is going to dump money into a high end sd camer.

That day's already come and gone. Nobody's spending any money to develop SD cameras anymore. But that has no bearing on end-user distribution I mean today we're shooting HD and delivering on standard-def DVD, tomorrow we'll be shooting HD and delivering on quarter-VGA youtube, and this situation is gonna continue for a long, long time. The only people who are going to be reaching a mass market with HD distribution are the major networks. For the rest of us, it's standard-def DVD or internet distribution and that won't change for the next few years at the earliest.

 

[John Caballero]

The federal government is giving out up to two $40.00 vouchers per household to be used towards the purchase of a digital to analaog converter box that receives the signal over the air for people with non-digital televisions and no cable or Direct TV.

 

[florisvaneck]

Still, although we deliver in SD, it is better to shoot in HD. In 10 years, you can sell your content again as new as it is in HD quality. And I think you are wrong about Blu-Ray. It will be the last major physical medium, but it will succeed. The other alternatives you mention are not ready yet and Blu-Ray is getting more popular. In most countries in Europe, HDTV penetration is around 50% already.

I agree that online distribution will be the next major thing.

 

[Tzedekh]

What exactly does AVC-Intra buy you (even at 100mbps) vs. DVCPROHD?

Other than it's more efficient for P2 card storage, is the image quality better? (even given that it is 1920 x 1080 vs 1440 x 1080)

At the same data rate (100 Mbps), it can do 10-bit 4:2:2 at 1,920 x 1,080, making it nearly as good as standard D-5 (that is, not including the 2,048 x 1,080, 4:4:4, wavelet-based add-on).

 

[Mister Big]

Still, although we deliver in SD, it is better to shoot in HD. In 10 years, you can sell your content again as new as it is in HD quality. And I think you are wrong about Blu-Ray. It will be the last major physical medium, but it will succeed. The other alternatives you mention are not ready yet and Blu-Ray is getting more popular. In most countries in Europe, HDTV penetration is around 50% already.

I agree that online distribution will be the next major thing.

Blu-ray may gain additional acceptance as a storage and archiving medium. It's definitely a race to see if blu-ray will gain critical mass as people buy big flatpanel TVs and want to see HD movies, or if on-demand or other downloadable content will beat it. I wouldn't bet anything on anything.

 

[Cees Mutsaers]

Wil the HVX200A be immediately available so there will be no gap untill the HPX170 will hit the marcket. What else is the point of having the HVX200A?

Will the hpx170 besides all the improvement (wider lens, higher zoom, improved S/N etc.) have all the bells and wistles of the HVX200 ?

Barry did they say anything about the LCD/EVF of the HPX170 ?

There is only a mock-up at the NAB? so no working unit?

 

[Barry_Green]

Wil the HVX200A be immediately available so there will be no gap untill the HPX170 will hit the marcket. What else is the point of having the HVX200A?

They didn't say. But the 200A is for those who want a transition from tape up to HD, whereas the 170 is for someone who doesn't need tape. So it might be an immediate transition (some of the posts from others here have said as much, but I don't recall Panasonic announcing a timeframe for 200A availability).

Will the hpx170 besides all the improvement (wider lens, higher zoom, improved S/N etc.) have all the bells and wistles of the HVX200 ?

I don't know for certain but I'd be very willing to bet that the chipset will be the same among them, meaning yes the 170 would have the lower noise and better low light. As for the lens, the 170's lens is just plain wider than the 200A's. The 200A is 4.2mm, the 170 is 3.9mm. And the 170 will have more bells & whistles (at the bare minimum it'll have 20 frame rates instead of 12, it'll have a six-pin firewire port, HD-SDI output, three ND filter positions, an 8-position scene file dial, and it'll be smaller and a lot lighter and will use 72mm filters and accessories instead of the HVX's 82mm.)

Barry did they say anything about the LCD/EVF of the HPX170 ?

Not a word. But the prototype looked like it has the same LCD as the existing models. Keep in mind though that this unit won't hit the market for something like six or 8 more months, so it may have the same LCD or there's plenty of time for it to perhaps improve.

There is only a mock-up at the NAB? so no working unit?

There was a mock-up at the press conference. NAB itself hasn't opened yet. That happens tomorrow morning.

 

[John Caballero]

So many new offerings. So many choices! So confusing! My God! All basically the same but different. How the hell can someone choose anymore? You pick one then you might feel you are loosing something with the other one. You pick the other one….ahhhh…. forget it for tonight, let’s go to bed…. Go again at it in the morning…