"I ****ING HATE YOU" – a film by SABI

Hey Zak, your film is the only one I saw. I really enjoyed the very wonderful and short an excerpt from two people lives. Love this.
 
F*cking amazing.

I have hesitated posting Zak because I don't just want to come on here and sound like a broken record with everyone else saying "good job" but I cannot find anything wrong here. I just watched it again, (for the nth time) and am just continually blown away every time.

The guy to me is awkward as all hell when it starts. Actually up until he starts singing there is this weird stalker vibe I am getting from him. Between him snapping a picture of her when she isn't looking to intentionally hiding that cup it is just strange. You did an awesome job of casting these two. She makes the whole film with just her facial expressions.

The only thing I absolutely dislike is his smirky-smile at the end. I get the moment and the motivation but it just seems so strange.

I enjoyed the atmosphere and third party observer you made us as viewers but the choices you made with the camera work were throwing me off. The focus hunting takes me right out. However, I love the claustrophobic feeling of long lenses and the atmosphere in the room. I really want to "get away" from that particular point in time because I know I shouldn't be there watching it.

$0.02
 
WR, holy sh*t!!! you watched this NINE TIMES?!?!? thanks for taking the time to post. i have a ton of respect for you and what you accomplished with TDD. if it helps, maybe Ron's smirk is because he can't get your "f*ckhole" scene out of his head?

btw, your feedback is worth a hell of a lot more to me than 2¢.
 
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Zak I was seriously LOL. SPOILERS: That moment when he says he wrote her a song felt so train wreck for me. Kinda the feeling I get when watching anything steve carrell: hand covering eyes but still peeking. I want that song for my ipod!

I probably would have minded the shakiness and focusfinding but its been mentioned so many times here and on other threads that I guess I was anticipating it and therefore, it didnt bother me at all.

Love it.
 
thanks Arrik. I'll definitely try to clear the rights for that song so we can distribute it on its own -- lot of fans of it out there apparently.
 
Hey man, sorry it took so long to get around here. I had an ill concieved plan of burning all to DVD and kicking back with the films. Alas, it was all f*cked up.

Anyway, wanted to congratulate you on the film. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Actors were spotless, in my opinion. Loved their quirkiness but most importantly, their ability to stay in character and make me feel like they weren't acting. So kudos on the acting. I just wished I could have stayed with them longer, maybe see what they were up to in a longer story, film.

But I like this one. It was tight and fun and excellent technically. Loved it. Thanks for showing.

Was there a continuity error with the window shot at the end?

Otherwise I thought the story was fun. I was misled but the title but loved it cause I thought it was going to be a hate story (as the beginning of the song also led me to believe) and it ended up being truely a love story. Kinda like a twist built into the title. Which I found awesome.

Overall, one of my favorites.
 
thanks Danielleus. i'm not sure what you mean about the continuity of the window shot. what are you seeing? Like a time of day thing or something else?

I know of one place where the continuity is off, and that's right at the beginning and concerns Ron's sweatshirt. He unzips it, then it's zipped, then he's taking it off. I did that knowlingly because I felt that Ron's emotional continuity and the rhythms of that shot order were more important and worked very well.

But again, you've got me curious. What's this window thing?
 
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But again, you've got me curious. What's this window thing?[/quote]

Hey, sorry about that. I really should have watched it again before I posted. The orange color pallette had my mind mized up so I thought, for some reason that there was orange the first time we see her by the window/stairs and then, when we see it again, it's white.

But that was my mistake. Oh, and your wonderful cinematography's. But mainly mine.

Ha. Where else can I check out your other work?
 
Hey Zak, great job man. I watched it when it was first available then again today. My comments have been said by others, in better ways than I can blab on here.

Matty G, youre a rockin DP cuz.

cheers fellers
 
Zak Forsman said:
HEART OF NOW is a feature I wrote, co-produced, directed and served as the cinematographer on last October. My brilliant, brilliant editor is actively cutting it. In the meantime, here is a preview of sorts. Not an actual trailer, just a preview of footage...

http://www.sabipictures.com/heartofnow/preview.html
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"transcendental humanism", huh? I would like to see that in feature form.

Can't wait. When do you think it's gonna be done? Where can I get a copy.

It looks beautiful, poetic, and in many ways sad. I love it. HVX?????

Congrats on the project. How do you think it's turning out? Let me know where I can see it when yer done.

P.S. I'm going to throw this out there but what do you think of Christopher Doyle?
 
Zak, I haven't commented here yet, but this was one of the earlier entries that I watched.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record. here are my impressions of your film.

I thought the story was effective. The acting was great not just for a dvxfest, but in general, I thought. Strong, rich performances.

Love your treatment of the look of the final footage.

Love how you effectively used the time limit by taking a small moment in these two characters lives and using it to portray a deep history of the relationship that these two share. I dig* that style. Their past was evident, and each of their feelings about their past was evident, and you gave us a little bit of what may be/ could have been with the ending as well... Or, at the very least, that they were both kinda holding on to their past together, and not quite ready to let go of it. And, you pretty much told me all of those things without your characters having to do it in the dialog. Awesome.

It was rich, strong, and very effective for what it was.

I personally am a fan of the handheld-esque style when done effectively and used with appropriate material that lends itself to that style, rather than being forced or just done too over-board.

I thought the style was entirely appropriate for this story. My onliest minor qualm would be that I felt (personally) that you went a bit too far with the handheld/out-of-focus... I think if you had honed that in just a touch, this thing would have been just about perfect for me.

Thanks for sharing.


Later,
Jason
 
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Danielleus said:
"transcendental humanism", huh? I would like to see that in feature form.

Can't wait. When do you think it's gonna be done? Where can I get a copy.

It looks beautiful, poetic, and in many ways sad. I love it. HVX?????

Congrats on the project. How do you think it's turning out? Let me know where I can see it when yer done.

P.S. I'm going to throw this out there but what do you think of Christopher Doyle?
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yes, HVX... Brevis... Sgpro too. my process invites spontaneity and surprises. so even in the edit, we are discovering new possibilities.. exciting possibilities.

I was a writer/editor on the behind the scenes for the Lady in the Water DVD, for which Doyle was the DP. and i had the opportunity to hear many of his insights into filmmaking first hand. he's a self-destructive mad genius and I admire his work greatly. there are only two other cinematographers I take as much inspiration from -- Pin Bing Lee (millennium mambo, in the mood for love, three times, cafe lumiere), and Alwin Kuchler (ratcatcher, morvern callar, code 46, sunshine).
 
oh, Jason... I can't tell you how much I appreciate your thoughts on our little film. You have proven yourself a force to be reckoned with. you have a rare sensitivity for very real, very human drama. and for that reason, i take you opinion to heart.

thanks for taking the time to revisit IFHY.



Jason Ramsey said:
Zak, I haven't commented here yet, but this was one of the earlier entries that I watched.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record. here are my impressions of your film.

I thought the story was effective. The acting was great not just for a dvxfest, but in general, I thought. Strong, rich performances.

Love your treatment of the look of the final footage.

Love how you effectively used the time limit by taking a small moment in these two characters lives and using it to portray a deep history of the relationship that these two share. I did that style. Their past was evident, and each of their feelings about their past was evident, and you gave us a little bit of what may be/ could have been with the ending as well... Or, at the very least, that they were both kinda holding on to their past together, and not quite ready to let go of it. And, you pretty much told me all of those things without your characters having to do it in the dialog. Awesome.

It was rich, strong, and very effective for what it was.

I personally am a fan of the handheld-esque style when done effectively and used with appropriate material that lends itself to that style, rather than being forced or just done too over-board.

I thought the style was entirely appropriate for this story. My onliest minor qualm would be that I felt (personally) that you went a bit too far with the handheld/out-of-focus... I think if you had honed that in just a touch, this thing would have been just about perfect for me.

Thanks for sharing.

Later,
Jason
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Thanks, man. And likewise

Fixed a little typo... I said "I did that style"... but meant to say "I dig that style" in my o.p.

I appreciate all your kind words, and all you have done to make this fest a success... from your contribution as an entrant, as an audience member, and your kick ass tribute video :thumbsup:

Later, man.
Jason
 
Zak,

I really loved this piece. I think it truly captured the essence of what a relationship can be in a few minutes... from that awkward stage to the enamored stage, from desperation and fear to regret and acceptance. Everything encapsulated in this one short scene and all of it heartfelt and believable. I think this is one of the few shorts that was able to deliver on a wide range of emotions, and for that I applaud you.

This piece works so well in no small part due to your actors. Both of them were fantastic and it's kinda funny because I thought at one point or another Marion had a very Penelope Ann Miller look and John reminded me of Eric Bana...

The cinematography and editing -- both also outstanding. I did, however, feel at times some of the camerwork seemed a little forced as far as the handheld/focus drifts go, but aside from those few instances it was great.

Oh and not quite related to the film, but I really dig the way your production logo looks and the way you've got a gradient going on the fonts in your credits. Looks very slick...

So that's me. Awesome work, easily makes my top 5.
 
Zak Forsman said:
yes, HVX... Brevis... Sgpro too. my process invites spontaneity and surprises. so even in the edit, we are discovering new possibilities.. exciting possibilities.

I was a writer/editor on the behind the scenes for the Lady in the Water DVD, for which Doyle was the DP. and i had the opportunity to hear many of his insights into filmmaking first hand. he's a self-destructive mad genius and I admire his work greatly. there are only two other cinematographers I take as much inspiration from -- Pin Bing Lee (millennium mambo, in the mood for love, three times, cafe lumiere), and Alwin Kuchler (ratcatcher, morvern callar, code 46, sunshine).
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Damn, you got to hear Doyle first hand? That's so awesome. I was jealous about Heart of Now. Alas, I am even more jealous now.

Thanks for pointing out the In the Mood for Love had two DPs. I always thought it was only Doyle. I think he's hands down my favorite current DP. I need to check out the rest of Pin Bing Lee's work. I've been meaning to watch Millennium Mambo and Three Times. I'll just have to throw Cafe Lumiere on that list. HHH isn't someone I've gotten into yet. But if they're your influnences in any way then I have another reason to check them out.

Haven't seen Kuchler's other work but as far as I can tell, the other stuff you mentioned is fairly different from Sunshine, no? At least in production value/subject matter?

Cool. Thanks for the chat. Always nice to find other fans of Doyle. I feel like he' so underrated in the US.
 
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