Is the Sony still 1920 at 24P?
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Barry_Green
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I used Vegas 7 and it can't take the MP4. You have to use the Clip Browser to export the files (an irritating waste of time that is what I despise about the FCP "log & transfer" workflow).
Does Vegas 8 eliminate this step?
Does Vegas 8 eliminate this step?
Barry_Green
Moderator
But you have to do both steps... you have to copy the MP4 files, and then export them. You don't want to throw away the original footage in the original MP4...
Barry,
If you use FCP you can throw away the original files, as long as you are happy with the rewrapped Quicktimes that the Sony plugin creates. They have the identical picture and sound information within and are in a more convenient format for doing anything on the Mac.
I don't keep any of my camera original files. I do a transfer and then format the card.
If you use FCP you can throw away the original files, as long as you are happy with the rewrapped Quicktimes that the Sony plugin creates. They have the identical picture and sound information within and are in a more convenient format for doing anything on the Mac.
I don't keep any of my camera original files. I do a transfer and then format the card.
Barry_Green
Moderator
Well, this goes contrary to everything I tell people about P2 though. FCP users always ask if they can throw away the original MXF files because they have rewrapped quicktimes, and I always say "no, don't be a fool, keep the camera originals."
Are you guys asserting that there's no content difference between the MP4 and the MXF? If there's absolutely no content difference then I can see what you're saying is safe, but -- why would they move from MXF (on the disc cameras) to MP4? Why not stay compatible with what they've already created? There's got to be a reason. I can't help but think that someday, months from now, someone's gonna figure that reason out -- and then everyone who's been throwing away their camera-original files is gonna wish they weren't.
Has Sony made any sort of official statement to say that the MXF files contain every shred of information that the MP4 files had? I can tell you for certain that that's not how the P2/MXF/Quicktime system works; the Quicktime rewrap discards the MXF file's metadata. It's not an equivalent file. Do we know for certain that the Sony MXF is completely equivalent to the Sony MP4?
Barry,
I a nutshell, no. But the transfer process happens so quickly that there's no way the computer is doing any kind of recompression, even of the audio.
If the picture, sound and timecode are all there, and beautiful besides, I can't think of anything else I need from the camera original files.
If there was ANY conversion whatsoever happening - any discarding of data, I would never throw out the originals. But there clearly isn't. If I am proven wrong I will change my ways...
I a nutshell, no. But the transfer process happens so quickly that there's no way the computer is doing any kind of recompression, even of the audio.
If the picture, sound and timecode are all there, and beautiful besides, I can't think of anything else I need from the camera original files.
If there was ANY conversion whatsoever happening - any discarding of data, I would never throw out the originals. But there clearly isn't. If I am proven wrong I will change my ways...
moldcad
Veteran
Correct. And one more thing: Barry is right about the need of keeping MP4s at least in one case: when a clip spans two cards. Once you export the chunks into mxf's, there is no way to stich them seamlessly together. On the other hand, when you copy the entire card structures to you disk (one after the other, without exporting), the Clip Browser will stitch them for you.
Then you can export to mxf's safely.
true. showing it on a computer display is fine. going to a location and only having an HDTV set up is the key.
i'd love to be able to burn a blu ray and am waiting to see if apple starts integrating blu ray capabilities into the new line of mac pros. (there is a rumor they might in a week at the macworld expo)
regular dvd is also fine, but simply pales in comparison to when you hook the camera directly to a 1080p set.
i'd love to be able to burn a blu ray and am waiting to see if apple starts integrating blu ray capabilities into the new line of mac pros. (there is a rumor they might in a week at the macworld expo)
regular dvd is also fine, but simply pales in comparison to when you hook the camera directly to a 1080p set.