Zander
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Hollywood Ingenuity
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puredrifting
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Man, you midwesterners are slave drivers. Can't a bro enjoy a good chase? ;-)
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Ryan Patrick O'Hara
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I saw this video on television and my jaw dropped. I would love to be a camera operator if I did stuff like that all the time!
Anyway, I kinda wish when the camera operator/stunt man, followed bourne's double, he would have actually landed in the house as well and kept running behind him. That would be an even crazier shot!
Anyway, I kinda wish when the camera operator/stunt man, followed bourne's double, he would have actually landed in the house as well and kept running behind him. That would be an even crazier shot!
Blaine
Mr. Hollywood
This isn't the only movie I have that complaint about. It seems to be a common theme with some otherwise good movies, today.
Ted Spencer
Veteran
Me neither, but 'Ultimatum' takes the cake so far. Most of the handheld parts look like they were shot by a crack addict.
Zander
Well-known member
That's what I thought he was going to do at first. If they did a long continuous shot like in "Children of Men" it would have been so cool.
Charlie Anderson
Not so clever
I like hand held to push the tension in the scene but in the opening to the 2nd one I wanted to stab the camera operator in the eye with a spoon for making me have to sit through that.
I hate hand held that's not justified.
thematthewbone
Well-known member
paul greengrass doesn't like the tripod too much.
seems like his films are almost entirely handheld.
seems like his films are almost entirely handheld.
Ryan Patrick O'Hara
Veteran
Hey the man has good reason... his parents were killed by a rogue tripod. Ever since he's never trusted them...
mikkowilson
Steadi-Guru
...If only there was some way to support a camera smoothly without a tripod...
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Blaine
Mr. Hollywood
And just why don't they use that more?
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Ted Spencer
Veteran
And just why don't they use that more?
I sure wish they would. I recently watched Tarantino's "Jackie Brown" (1997) for the first time, and it looks like a lot of it was shot on a Steadicam, which looked great to me. All the nice fluid moving camera mojo with none of the maddening crack-addict-cam distraction.
Sigh...
puredrifting
Major Contributor
The Bourne Identity literally made me queasy when I saw it on the big screen. The other one that is killing me is flagrant ECU misuse. Did you guys see Into the Wild? Great film, Sean Penn did a very god job except for the constant and repeated overuse of the EXTREME CU!!! Made me claustrophobic. Give me my John Ford, that man knew the power of a wide shot.
Years ago when HD was coming in, a lot of us were hoping for the rebirth of the wide shot with actors playing and moving in and out of the frame, not the continued overuse of the CU and ECU and MTV barf cam movement. In NTSC/PAL tv screens, it kind of made sense, there wasn't enough resolution to hold a wide shot but with HD, we could return to classic visual vocabulary of the 20s, 30s, 40s and 50s if any directors had the balls to do it. I have a feeling that the editors and production execs wouldn't let it happen though, too 'unconventional'.
John Ford, with one camera and a small crew, used to regularly shoot 20-25 pages a day.
Most of the shows I shoot on, television and features, with 2-3 cameras and a crew of 60-80 people can barely get through 4-5 pages a day. Most (not all) directors working today have no vision for their films anymore, they shot the crap out of everything from 29 angles so they are 'covered' in post. Wimps. ;-)
Something's wrong here.
Dan
Years ago when HD was coming in, a lot of us were hoping for the rebirth of the wide shot with actors playing and moving in and out of the frame, not the continued overuse of the CU and ECU and MTV barf cam movement. In NTSC/PAL tv screens, it kind of made sense, there wasn't enough resolution to hold a wide shot but with HD, we could return to classic visual vocabulary of the 20s, 30s, 40s and 50s if any directors had the balls to do it. I have a feeling that the editors and production execs wouldn't let it happen though, too 'unconventional'.
John Ford, with one camera and a small crew, used to regularly shoot 20-25 pages a day.
Most of the shows I shoot on, television and features, with 2-3 cameras and a crew of 60-80 people can barely get through 4-5 pages a day. Most (not all) directors working today have no vision for their films anymore, they shot the crap out of everything from 29 angles so they are 'covered' in post. Wimps. ;-)
Something's wrong here.
Dan
Tom Marshall
Actor!!!!!!
But wouldn't that be some sort of specialty setup? And wouldn't they have to pay someone a lot of money to do that?
mikkowilson
Steadi-Guru
Thats the beauty of having a $110,000,000 dollar budget. You can afford to spend on luxuries like a stedicam operator... oh wait?
/haha
Blaine
Mr. Hollywood
Nice post, Dan.
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Great points everyone.