8mm / 16mm Film look scene settings???

Attic6

Attic6

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I'm busy in pre-prod for a music video. The band are a surf rock style group.
They want their video to have the home movie / Dogtown and the Z-Boys sort of look. Will all be them playing on the beach / surfing longboards / skating down old waterslides etc.

Other than shooting 25P (We are PAL here) and 50th shutter what scene settings do you guys recomend or have found to help with giving this sort of output?

I will be using Magic Bullet at the place where i or the editor will work so i will be able to tweak the hell out of it there, i'm just looking for a good solid base to start with...

Thanks

Jimmy
 
Up your master pedestal to +1 to +5. Take the detail level down to -5 to -7 or so...

Go test it out.

Most of this will be done in post, if you ask me, but that should give you a good starting point. Softer image, light blacks. Then desaturate in post, play around with the softness of the image, add a little grain, etc...

Do you have a 35mm adpater? if so, use a fairly shallow DOF. If not, step back from your subject and stay zoomed in as MUCH as possible to achieve the shallow DOF.

My .02
 
In addition to that, you can maybe reduce the Coring setting, so some more grain shows through. Maybe even intentionally shoot with gain on +6 or more, to get some grain. Use the THICK setting to kill the detail as well.

Of course, all that will in some way degrade the footage and will be "burned in." If that scares you, just create the look in post.

BTW, 8mm is kind of cruddy compared to DVX, but well-shot 16mm and well-shot DVX look pretty similar anyway, except for depth of field.
 
To try to get the Super 8 DOF I shoot at focal lengths that were common to super 8 lenses at the time. What I mean is, my Canon 814 can only zoom out to 7.5mm or so, while my DVX can zoom out all the way back to 4.5mm. I usually keep my DVX zoomed in to 10mm as a rule of thumb, so that the DOF is shallower than it normally would be. This equates to about Z46 or so.

Also, forget the 180 degree shutter. I don't know many super 8 cameras with a 180 degree shutter. For instance, the Beaulieu 4008 actually exposes each frame for 1/87, and I usually set my shutter to that so I can simulate the same kind of motion cadence. It's stuttery, but I like it. Also, if you're going handheld I'd disable OIS so you can get the same kind of shaky look.

Other than that, unless you can get shaky registration on a DVX I'd say the rest ought to be done in post. Or you could try a scene file. Whatever works.
 
Wow, thanks, very interesting about the shutter... I was not aware that those cameras were anything but 180deg I guess the oldest film cameras that i've been around are the BL and Arri 3 but still set to 180...
Most of the stuff i shoot with a faster shutter, but some people ***** that it's not as smooth. They always ask, why is your camera not smooth like other video cameras:)

Yip, i've got a super diy adaptor, so i'll try shoot some of the stuff with that.

Thanks again.

jimmy
 
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