Importing MXF files (originated from Panasonic HVX200/P2) into Avid

Import Audio in Avid

Import Audio in Avid

I have a 720 24p on 60i project. I recorded with the HVX200 using a Firestone Fs-100 with the old 2.x firmware. That's why I couldnt use 24p native.

When I try to import my audio files Avid asks me if I want to choose drop frame or non drop frame.

And if the audio files should be in 30fps or 23.97fps, since my project is really 60fps, what configuration should I take?

I recorded with a fostex on 16bit, 48000khz, they are in WAV format.

How can I do the pulldown for the audio files? Is it necessary?

Thanks.
 
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Ok, so I am attempting this for the first time and I am a bit confused about step one... do I have to create a folder called "Avid Media Files" right at the root level of the drive I am using for the footage?
And I copy the MXF's from the Video folder in the P2 card together with the MXF's form the Audio folder?
I then tried importing them but it couldn't...

I also tried importing them from Avid directly from the original location but no go either...
 
USLatinContent said:
do I have to create a folder called "Avid Media Files" right at the root level of the drive I am using for the footage?
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"Avid MediaFiles" is the correct name at the root of your video drive, not "Avid Media Files" like you typed above. If you create it incorrectly, it will not work. Damn the specificity of computers! :laugh:


USLatinContent said:
And I copy the MXF's from the Video folder in the P2 card together with the MXF's form the Audio folder?
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Yes.
 
woooho!!!!

I got my first clips in there and the play-back is awesome!

I have a problem with my sound card and I can't even figure out even how to get two video tracks to try out fades ... well I can't figure out ANYTHING lol... but I got my footage in there and I feel much better already
thanks DC
 
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I'm using Avid XpressPro HD 5.1.5 and got the mxf files into a project by the directions given by DC. Playback is fine with sound and picture, but when i send to quicktime reference, i get no video playback, but sound is there. Not sure what to do next?
 
Since your running 5.1.5 you probably have to check the tech notes with avid and get the exact version of quicktime specified for 5.1.5 - then the reference should work again
 
Tom_Borg said:
is it possible to import P2 720 Native 25p ?? then in which kind of project? 1080?
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Raylight MXFX (new product, see http://dvfilm.com/MXFX) offers a large number of conversion possiblities for Avid users.

For example without recompression you convert Panasonic MXF files in 720/25PN to 720/50, 720/24PN or 720/60. You could also upres to 1080/50i or 1080/60i.

Although these last two conversions will recompress and add noise, there is a built-in noise reduction feature that will make the converted footage less noisy than the original. There is an example of that on the webpage.

MXFX does other things as well like 180 degree image rotation without recompression and it can consolidate several P2 card images into one.
 
No, it doesn't. 720p is always progressive--there is no interlaced 720-line HD format. Going from 720/25pN to 720/50p will not introduce any interlacing artifacts or recompression.
 
cbrougham said:
No, it doesn't. 720p is always progressive--there is no interlaced 720-line HD format. Going from 720/25pN to 720/50p will not introduce any interlacing artifacts or recompression.
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thanks a lot for your answer. So what is the diference between the two formats and if its going to take a lot of "conversion" time. I am kind of confuse about hte HVX when using 720/2PN because it show DVCPRO 50 under and it cannot be changed. I thought that it was filming DVCPRO 100, that menas DVCPRO HD but i cannto changed as it is in blue when i choose 720.

Well that was alittle parentes. DO you know if the material after conversion will be double in size? or some othe drawback from this Raylight conversion?
 
Basically, the "big deal" with the native modes in the HVX is that you're only recording as many frames as necessary to achieve the frame rate you're shooting in, and subsequently, native frame rates require less storage space. In other words, if you're shooting 720/25pN, you're only recording 25 frames per second. However, if you're shooting 720/25p, you're actually recording 50 frames per second. The imaging portion of the HVX is "taking pictures" 25 times per second, but the recording portion of the HVX is doubling each frame to pad out to 50 frames per second. The "look" is the same, but the storage requirements are doubled. So, as you've surmised, converting your footage from 720/25pN to 720/25p "over 50" will double the file size of each clip. Visually, there is no difference.

Also, 720p and 1080i/p are ONLY available in DVCPROHD. The HVX will "blue out" any options that cannot be changed or set when you are in a particular recording mode. So, if may say "DVCPRO50" under format, but if you're set to 720p or 1080i, you can rest assured that you're recording DVCPROHD.
 
Tom_Borg said:
1. So what is the diference between the two formats and if its going to take a lot of "conversion" time.

2. DO you know if the material after conversion will be double in size? or some othe drawback from this Raylight conversion?
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1. If you shoot 25P and MXFX converts that to 720/50, the format is the same the frames are just doubled up and play at 50 instead of 25. The conversion is fast unless you specify other options like grain reduction or image rotation.

2. Yes the new 50P MXF files will be double in size vs the 25P files. The quality will be exactly the same.

An alternative is the 25P to 24P conversion. There is no loss in quality, the file does not increase in size, you can edit in a 720/24P project and author to 24P DVD formats which are playable in PAL country. The only drawback there is the motion is slowed down by 4% (and the audio as well, to keep it in sync).
 
Hallo
I'd like to understand if is possible do this:

I convert my 720/25PN than I edit whith the converted 720/50P footage than whe I mastered the project I delete the converted (heavy files)

now the question---For a bach editing is possible reconvert the original 720/25PN and make avid relink the new reconverted file whith the original sequence

I don't know if I explained well my problem and my english is orrible but my teacher in the school was so ugly (hahahaha)
 
Eric Papa said:
DC:

I am working on multiple HD projects. When I use the media tool to import master clips, it finds all of the clips (from previous projects). Is there a way to just say "bring in clips from MXF/2 etc, or do I have to look at each clip individually and distinguish which clips I want to drag where...?
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Hi, I'm new here, but I found some really interesting tips. Thanks a lot.

But this question from Eric Papa is VERY IMPORTANT for me. It's completely crazy when you work on a big project to have to look at each clip and rename it !!!!!! We should be able to import from one folder only, say subfolder 3 of the mxf folder. How to to this, I don't know ??? I have a workaround, but it is complicated and easy to mess with everything !!

Anybody know something about this important organization issue ???

A+
 
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