Shooting Urban Break Dancing in 24pn on dvx100b - seeking advice?

[bb50014]

hi,
shot some test footage of a guy doing urban-break dancing with my DVX in 24Pn 1/48 shutter speed with a 35mm adapter, brought it into FCP on a 29.97 timeline and noticed at 100% size there was a fair amount of interlacing happening, i don't remember this being the case on other 24Pn footage, but then again the subjects in those prev projects were not moving very fast. his dance steps are lighting quick... would that be causing the interlace issues?... or would it be better to shoot in 24Pn but at a higher shutter speed like 1/60?

i digitized the video with settings at 29.97 NTSC standard settings.

as a trial... i ran a de-interlace filter from Nattress across the footage and that def smooths it out... but i feel like i'm missing something or there's a better way to shoot this guy dancing. we originally went with 24Pn at 1/48 to get closer to film look and cadence. final pieces will be both projected as well as web-clip.

attached a couple grabs from fcp BEFORE i ran the de-interlace filter, second grab has some CC. cheers, brian

 

[Shibuya Oboya]

to get rid of that, you need to capture using the pulldown removal 2:3:3:2 setting, and edit in a 24 timeline.

use the search function on this site, and you'll find a ton about what you need to do.

 

[bb50014]

... in the DVX book for 24Pn (n= normal not advanced) it says editing on a 29.97 time-line is the way to go. deliverables are project-tv and web.

i can use a de-interlace to get rid of it but wondered if there was an In-Cam way to lessen the effect... like higher shutter speed.

thanks for kindly pointing out i search, i have done several and haven't seen my question answered in regards to shooting a fast moving figure dancing in 24Pn.

cheers, brian

to get rid of that, you need to capture using the pulldown removal 2:3:3:2 setting, and edit in a 24 timeline.

use the search function on this site, and you'll find a ton about what you need to do.

 

[Shibuya Oboya]

sorry, wasn't paying attention. assumed you were talking 24pa.

as far as I know, de-interlace for web, and leave it for tv.

 

[Joshua Provost]

Exactly, you can ignore the interlacing and simply edit your final output for TV. When you make a smaller version for the web and encode that, that is when and only when you want to deinterlace it.

If you want to avoid this in the future, it is perfectly viable to shoot in 24pA, edit with nice clean progressive frames in a 24p timeline, and then output a 24p "Normal" version for export to tape. At least then you don't have to look at the stuff while editing.

 

[bb50014]

hi joshua,
from the 24p timeline... what do you mean output a normal version to Tape?

do you mean drag the finished edited piece onto a 29.97 timeline for use on tape/tv?

cheers,
brian

If you want to avoid this in the future, it is perfectly viable to shoot in 24pA, edit with nice clean progressive frames in a 24p timeline, and then output a 24p "Normal" version for export to tape. At least then you don't have to look at the stuff while editing.