Short shot with 2 dvx100a in parallel

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Hi, some time ago, I co-directed a short called El Punto Ciego -The Blind Spot-. We used 2 dvx100 in parallel in order to get some pseudoHD resolutions -like 1280x544-. Then we transferred to film 2,35:1 and it was pretty good -imho, quite better than some stuff we did in hdv after that-.

So, I wanted to show you the short:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/858035/the_blind_spot_el_punto_ciego/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t72M1CCMK_E

and some making off pics:
http://rlux.blogspot.com/2006/02/acerca-de-la-tcnica-en-el-punto-ciego.html

I hope you like it, regards!
 
Hey man, stills looked great, but i couldnt watch the film. Non enlgish films with subtitles are to distracting, and i couldn't make it though, sorry
 
great stuff here, yeah it is a bit too much information on screen when u have to read subtitles, but wow!

I am interested in the budget? equipment, lights, and all that, where did u get the actors?
 
Ok, it's a bit like 3d photograph technique or what in the old days was called Cinerama ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinerama ). We put both cameras on a custom tripod base plate and adjust the angle on both cameras so that the character or whatever we are focusing on, falls in the area where both angles match (you can see what I mean in the attached draft). So, instead of 720x576, we have 1440x576. BUT, there is a slice of image in the center we are loosing, the transition from left to right side. I don't know if you understand it, I'm used to explain it in spanish, sorry.

Anyway, if you don't, I'll try harder :D

Regards
 

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Wow that is so cool, So when you edit, do you just over lap the layers or what do you do to connect the footage together?
 
davidreimers said:
great stuff here, yeah it is a bit too much information on screen when u have to read subtitles, but wow!

I am interested in the budget? equipment, lights, and all that, where did u get the actors?
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The budget, including transfer to 35mm was about 36.000€. Actors are professional but they kindly did it for free. Shooting in the subway was pretty expensive -4.000€- and also was lighting equipment with its crew. Cinematographer Jon D. Dominguez did a great job.

You can see our previous short shot with dvx100 -only one this time :D - here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1ya-yQqj6o

Regards
 
TheComo said:
Wow that is so cool, So when you edit, do you just over lap the layers or what do you do to connect the footage together?
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That was the idea, but we had to work with each layer on each clip to get a coherent image. And then, we put a mask above them to simulate human sight.

Regards
 
I understand the parralel DVX part, after seeing the actual film and checking out the production stills :)

but explain a little bit the lighting, any lights in the subway scene? where did u get the actors from?

EDIT: ok u answer some of this above..... wow 4000 euros just for the subway, holy crap! did u get this funded? where u got the money from?
 
davidreimers said:
I understand the parralel DVX part, after seeing the actual film and checking out the production stills :)

but explain a little bit the lighting, any lights in the subway scene? where did u get the actors from?

EDIT: ok u answer some of this above..... wow 4000 euros just for the subway, holy crap! did u get this funded? where u got the money from?
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In the subway, we replaced the actual fluorescents with balanced ones. Then, inside the house, we put punctual lights along the corridor and chinese balls with some idon'trememberthename light bulbs simulating the fluorescent in the autopsy room.

We got almost 30.000€ from institutions and the rest came from our pockets.

Regards
 
In an attempt to internationalize DVXUSER:

Me encanto - mira, perdoname que me falta aveces el vocabulario en español...
Pero te digo que el estilo de este corto me parecio estupendo. Hay veces que se ve el borde entre las dos camaras, pero considerando que toda la historia se trata del 'punto siego' realimente no es una cosa mala...sino realmente funciona como una representacion visual del tema.
Bien actuado, filmado, y escrito.

Buen trabajo.

Una notita - que realmente no importa.... cuando el tipo esta hablando con la chica el el tren dice que el el Martes - y los subtitulos dicen Jueves.
:)

Pero - solamente esos que son bilingues se van a dar cuenta...asi que realmente no te preocupes.
:thumbsup:
 
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did u approach those institutions with a script? do know anybody that is works for the film funds?

trying to figure out how it works in europe
 
Luis Caffesse said:
In an attempt to internationalize DVXUSER:

Me encanto - mira, perdoname que me falta aveces el vocabulario en español...
Pero te digo que el estilo de este corto me parecio estupendo. Hay veces que se ve el borde entre las dos camaras, pero considerando que toda la historia se trata del 'punto siego' realimente no es una cosa mala...sino realmente funciona como una representacion visual del tema.
Bien actuado, filmado, y escrito.

Buen trabajo.

Una notita - que realmente no importa.... cuando el tipo esta hablando con la chica el el tren dice que el el Martes - y los subtitulos dicen Jueves.
:)

Pero - solamente esos que son bilingues se van a dar cuenta...asi que realmente no te perocupes.
:thumbsup:
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Jajaja, gracias por el intento y por la crítica / thanks for the attempt and thanks for the critique.
In fact, that border effect was intended. The title works in many levels of the history. And I didn't realize that subtitle error :D

davidreimers said:
did u approach those institutions with a script? do know anybody that is works for the film funds?

trying to figure out how it works in europe
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There are some organisms that subsidize (i think that's not the right verb) shorts based on a project -script, budget, cast, crew...-. Besides, a tv network bought the project before shooting. That was how we got it. It's different in each spanish city, so it can't be extrapolated to Europe.

Best regards and thanks for you feedback!
 
Don't worry about your english...most people I know don't even know the words 'subsidize' or 'extrapolate'
:)

By the way - the one thing I didn't mention in my previous post - I really enjoyed the transitions form the full screen into the split screen. Very nice look.
 
Luis Caffesse said:
By the way - the one thing I didn't mention in my previous post - I really enjoyed the transitions form the full screen into the split screen. Very nice look.
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We actually shot a girl with her face painted in black and then created a mask with her blink movement. That was used when going into a close-up shot and when moving between full and split screen.

And yes, it was shot on two PAL dvx100.

Regards
 
I've read about this technique before and it's really cool to see it used. I started watching the film and couldn't stop. I thought it was just awesome. It blows me away the amount of planning that has to be involved with getting shots like that.

I would also disagree with the others that said there was too much going on on screen. I thought it was great.
 
what were your setting's in the camera this film was amazing, and i really enjoyed Gris as well you have quite a style of your own.
 
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