Scene Settings {8-Ball Press High}

fevercity

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Maybe if it had a sexier name than "B.PRESS", I would've experimented more with this gamma setting sooner. Not that "CINELIKE V" is all that sexy but that's what I had settled on for a lot of my material. It is, after all, one of the 'suggested' film-out settings from DVFilm.com.

Maybe it's too many years finsihing shows for broadcast where maximum contrast is essential 'on the scopes'. Whatever the case, I do find myself pushing blacks to black, whites to white and bringing down mids to taste. I may have found some common ground with "B.PRESS".

Also, Barry Green writes in his bible that, with CINELIKE V, "more of the potential dynamic range is used so the image appears to have sharper contrast, but it's done so ELECTRONICALLY by stretching the gamma curve"*. I'm not sure if that's the culprit but I'm seeing mosquito noise in less-than-ideal recent shoots (sunrise, sunset and low-light). Pushing the range with color-correction {in 10-bit uncompressed} really brought out this noise even further. Regardless, I still push the range and 'almost always' bring down the mids, so maybe B.PRESS could fit the bill.

With this latest batch, chroma's a bit hot. This jpeg doesn't do justice to how saturated the new woodwork on that house is. The sky remains thanks to a polarizer filter. Otherwise, there's no other filtration and white balance is clean. The blacks are definitely solid. Maybe too solid - this gamma curve probably allows for some more room on the lower end (a -6 or -7 should be ideal). -8 is what's provided here for PEDESTAL and HIGH on the KNEE, hence the name:

"8-Ball Press High"

DETAIL LEVEL -3
V DETAIL LEVEL -1
DETAIL CORING +2
CHROMA LEVEL +3
CHROMA PHASE 0
COLOR TEMP 0
MASTER PED -8
A. IRIS LEVEL -1
GAMMA B.PRESS
KNEE HIGH
MATRIX CINELIKE
SKIN TONE DTL OFF
V DETAIL FREQ THIN
PROGRESSIVE 24p

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* Barry Green, The DVX Book (Las Vegas, NV: Fiercely Independent Film Inc., 2004, 2005) p. 63.
 
A Closer Look {at the house} - yours for only $900,000!!!

A Closer Look {at the house} - yours for only $900,000!!!

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............... I'm not sure if that's the culprit but I'm seeing mosquito noise in less-than-ideal recent shoots (sunrise, sunset and low-light). ....................


That may be due to your Matrix setting. Others have mentioned low light noise issues with CINELIKE and have recommended NORM instead.

Even so, your stills really have some punch!.
Thanks for posting that info.
 
Thanks for the heads up, gco. It is appreciated.

I'll put that one to the test next. Thanks for the compliment too!
 
Fevercity, forgive me for missing something, but what is the purpose of these settings?
Is it high contrast, low contrast or some type maximum edge on the camera? Where would one use these settings etc.
Thanks
Gary
 
It's a high-contrast, high-saturation 'punchy' look. I stay far away from any "maximum edge" on the DVX.

That house just shows a very extreme example of its look. IT actually looks pretty wild in-person never mind what the camera's doing.

If you look at the other grabs up top (other than the house), you'll see that they're getting a full contrast range out of the camera and I just happen to like a lot of color. If you don't go too far, you can always de-saturate it a little later.
 
Thanks very much, I really do like the look of the grabs. I've already copied the settings into the camera, I'm anxious to do some comparing. As far as "If you don't go to far", that's always an issue isn't it?
Gary
 
Indeed - and agreed. You do find some people that really like pushing the envelope with their settings though. There's also the 'shoot-it-flat, tweak-in-post' crowd.
 
Ah the war cry of inexperience. "I''ll fix it in post".
Have you ever Played with the settinbgs needed to get the old 8mm home movie or even silent movie look?
Gary
 
i like all your settings you have listed- i like creating as much majic in the camera as i can- i am not a big fan of over used efx- thanks again for all the great ideas and inspiration .

k5
 
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