Spy Fest 2007 - Submission Info

I like the top 3 voting idea. Doesn't sound like alot of overhead, but gives a little feedback on other films.
 
I myself would rather have the entries judged by a small panel of those who have no entry in Spyfest.

No direct involvement, just a healthy interest in film and not "buddies" with any of the filmmakers.

Probably impossible though...

Either way, it will be fun to see what everyone comes up with.

I can't wait!

Mike
 
The impetus for creating the DVXfest in the first place was to get filmmakers out there actually making films. The idea was a contest by filmmakers, for filmmakers. So it only stands to reason that the filmmakers would be the ones to vote, rather than some obscure "panel".

This is not Sundance or Cannes, but something to encourage you to get out there and actually make a film. The contest/prizes are secondary to that goal.

So to that end, the voting will continue to be handled by the members of this site.

And, yes, it WILL be fun to see what everyone comes up with. I'm always surprised at the creativity of this group :thumbsup:
 
Larry R said:
The impetus for creating the DVXfest in the first place was to get filmmakers out there actually making films. The idea was a contest by filmmakers, for filmmakers. So it only stands to reason that the filmmakers would be the ones to vote, rather than some obscure "panel".

This is not Sundance or Cannes, but something to encourage you to get out there and actually make a film. The contest/prizes are secondary to that goal.

So to that end, the voting will continue to be handled by the members of this site.

And, yes, it WILL be fun to see what everyone comes up with. I'm always surprised at the creativity of this group :thumbsup:
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That makes perfect sense when you put it that way.

Thanks for the explanation.

Cheers,

Mike
 
Hi Larry,

Can you clarify, please:

I think 5/31 midnight means until basically 11:59: PM (plus one minute) on the 31st. So the night of the 31st the eve of the 1st.

BUT

5/31 midnight could also mean the end of the day on the 30th. Basically 11:59 PM (plus one minute) at end of the day on the 30th / the eve of the 31st.

I am planning on uploading a day early for safety, so I am not trying to wait till the last second but "midnight on such and such date" always make me nervous for a potential communication error.

Like I said, not planning on last minuting it, just need the clarification so I can use our time but play it safe as well.

Thanks Sir,

:beer:
 
As always, principally because there are still some manual processes in place (the whole system is completely coded yet) this is a semi-arbitrary date/time.

While we do intend to stop at the end of the day May 31, in reality you could still upload until around 8-ish PST/PDT (whatever it is now) on June 1st. That's when I get into the office and have a chance to turn off the upload script.

I understand the confusion, and in the future there will be a countdown timer on the page to give clear indication as to the amount of time remaining.
 
Yeah I plan on NOT being in a position where a few hours makes the difference, but a day does. And I plan to upload a day early just in case.

But knowing that I have the day of the 31st, if I encounter some disaster or horrendously long render time on the 30th has answered my question. I am not even going to consider the hours between midnight and when you get into the office in the morning on the first. Pretending like you didn't say that:)

I just locked my cut today but I am working with a sound mixer in another state and composers in another country and I was getting nervous about getting all the elements together.

In the absence of a fancy countdown timer maybe the rules could just say 11:59-ish PM on 31st :laugh:

Thanks Larry. You are in the "thanks" section of my credits ... but you have to read fast since I can't stand long credits on a short film. :beer:
 
At the risk of people pushing the boundary to further and further limits, I will allow up to 5 seconds over the 6 minute mark. Anything more than 6 minutes and the film WILL BE rejected (though you'll be given an opportunity to trim and re-submit).

So, the answer is "Yes, 6:03 would be ok". But I had to answer the long way in order to make it clear that we won't tolerate people pushing one second more and one second more until suddenly we are at 8 or 10 minutes ;)
 
if you win or place you will wish you had cut your film to 6:00
because everyone will complain about it
people have cut 12 minutes down to six.
If you can cut 1 frame out of 72 cuts or something I highly recommend it.
I would not have my film run even a few frames over 6:00 if it was at all possible.
maybe this fest will be more relaxed ... but maybe not.

6:00 is really already supposed to be a "grace minute" on 5:00

Good luck.

EDIT: I remember from your thread now that you have already cut your baby in half. But again, if you can grit through those last three seconds I recommend it.
 
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Larry R said:
At the risk of people pushing the boundary to further and further limits, I will allow up to 5 seconds over the 6 minute mark. Anything more than 6 minutes and the film WILL BE rejected (though you'll be given an opportunity to trim and re-submit).

So, the answer is "Yes, 6:03 would be ok". But I had to answer the long way in order to make it clear that we won't tolerate people pushing one second more and one second more until suddenly we are at 8 or 10 minutes ;)
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I don't understand this at all.

First you say that 6:05 is okay, then you say it will get rejected, and then you say it's okay. Which is it?

We're sitting at 5:59:22, so it's not going to effect my edit, that's for sure, that just confused the hell out of me.
 
He says the limit is six minutes and you have 5 grace seconds.

6 minutes is the limit

They won't DQ you if you run over slightly by up to 5 seconds.

He makes the point of saying THE LIMIT IS SIX MINUTES ...

... so that by the time people get to 6:05 and 1 frame there is a clear, "now you're taking advantage of our leniency" point. :)

Hope that's clear :beer:

So they will let people in up to 6:05.

But if any film that does well is over 6:00 there is going to be a stink, not from the festival runners but from the goers and participants, I guarantee it. Someone will be confused like you just were, or will say that the 5 grace seconds were not posted in the official rule list and if they had known about them they would have used them too, and it's not fair for so and so to have that extra time ... Larry is being too nice.

Also hope no one uses those 5 seconds for credits or is having trouble getting under 6 minutes due to credits. Put those in your thread or have em blaze by in a second. People can pause them to see the names if they want.
 
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Sorry...that was a typo...it was supposed to say "... Anything more than 6:05 minutes and the film WILL BE rejected ... ", though I think the intent is clear enough from the text. But hopefully this clears it up.

Thanks for the clarification you posted JDS...actually makes my point better than this "clarification" :thumbsup:


Understand...this "grace" thing is primarily to allow for problems in compression. Assuming your film comes in at 6:00 precisely, but after compressing to the required h.264 it opens up in Quicktime and reads 6:03 from some unknown reason...this "grace" will allow for it. As JDS has said, I would STRONGLY RECOMMEND that you do everything in your power to make your film within the 6:00 minutes. It IS possible!

And, for sure, DON'T use the "grace" seconds to fit in your credits. People will really complain if you do AND you win (as JDS has so clearly stated) :)
 
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no worries, i found a shot that i've decided to cut out of the film so i should be a few seconds under. good advice on not being the exception to the rule, i didn't think of it that way, but it makes sense.
 
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