24p in Premiere 6.0

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David W. Richardson

Chapelgrove Films
Okay, this is going to be a very elementary question, but bear with me.

I have Premiere 6.0, which doesn't support 24fps. I can shoot 24p with my DVX100a and import it into Premiere 6.0, edit, etc. -- but obviously, Premiere converts the footage to 30fps. Which is fine.

My question is -- is there any advantage for me to shoot in 24p instead of 30p? Will the footage look any more film-like simply because it was shot in 24p as opposed to 30p? I was under the impression that the 'film-like' aspects involved the progressive scan and the cine settings of the camera, moreso than simply the frame rate -- but I could be wrong. It would seem to me that if the NLE is converting it to 30p anyway, there's no reason to shoot it in 24p -- but I could be way off base on that. So I'm asking the experts.

Thanks!
 
Basically there's no point shooting 24p if you're gonna be editing in a 30p timeline. This will just mean that footage will be very jittery and won't play back smoothly because of the diffence between footage and timeline. So you'd be best of shooting 30p and editing with that and then you can change the that to 24p afterwards if you really want that frame rate, using after effects or another program and converting and slowing down the footage.
 
Daniel, thanks for the reply. I have to tell you, I've edited an entire feature shot in 24p using my Premiere 6.0, and I'm not seeing the jitteryness(?) that you mentioned. Am I blind?
 
really? was that in a 30p timeline as well? That's strange, although I've been working in Premiere 1.5, so that might be the problem there. Maybe someone else can chime in?
 
That is strange. If he shot 24p normal and edit in a 29.97 timeline he won't see any jitter, but version 6.0 would have to remove the pulldown first, which it doesn't.
 
It's probably time to upgrade. I currently have 6.5, but I am ordering the CS3 Production suite.
 
Well, it may not be a great example, but you can look at the trailer I put online for the movie. There's no jitter that I can see. (Keep in mind, we shot in 24p -- not 24p advanced. And yes, it was a 29.97 timeline.) You can find the trailer on YouTube.com -- just search for "afterlife trailer". Or you can view a RealPlayer version on my website -- www.chapelgrovefilms.com/afterlife.

I'd love to upgrade to Premiere Pro, but I just can't afford it. I need to make some money before I can spend any more.
 
if you want a videolike framerate to your footage then shoot 30p
if you want a filmlike feel shoot 24p.
Every feature film or shot on film drama is done at 24fps and reality shows,sports, the news, and soap operas generally use 30p or 60i.

progressive scan is better for post work even if your final delivery is a dvd.
 
Arson said:
if you want a videolike framerate to your footage then shoot 30p
if you want a filmlike feel shoot 24p.
Every feature film or shot on film drama is done at 24fps and reality shows,sports, the news, and soap operas generally use 30p or 60i.

progressive scan is better for post work even if your final delivery is a dvd.
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But if I'm editing on a NON-24p enable platform, what's the point of shooting 24P? Seems to me any 'filmlike feel' gained by shooting 24p will be lost when it's brought into a 30fps timeline, won't it?

If I had a 24p-enabled app like Premiere Pro 2.0 or FCP, then I can totally see the benefit of shooting in 24p. But my question was -- what's the advantage for ME, with only Premiere 6.0, of shooting in 24p?
 
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