CineFuse1 & CineFuse3 on the Brevis + HVX

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Shot this really really quick today to just see if there was a big a difference - Cinefuse 3 is really easy to install, took under 10 minutes. It uses up more light but gives a softer D.O.F. and a deeper image - I shot with available light

No color correction


More in depth to come in the future when I have the time

http://www.richard-darge.com/CF1_3.mov
 
I like CineFuse3 better too - deeper look, ala M2 , but its nice having the CF1 as an option if I ever go into an area without a lot of light
 
its richer, but the "bokeh rendition" from CF1 on the same lens is much to be desired. washy and with that weird "too thin gg" look.
 
Richard, thanks so much for posting this :-)

CF1 is all about light efficiency, and folks like Phil Bloom (shoots for channel 4 in London), Bob Gundu (well known here) and Richard himself have done excellent work with it. Bokeh "quality" is of course a very subjective evaluation, so rather than try to please everyone, we have the 3 diffuser options. Shooters can decide what best meets their needs, and what light efficiency/aperture range/bokeh they want. The desire for this became very clear even way back when we sent the first 10 beta units out. A new R&D project was kicked off last week, so expect some very interesting additions/refinements to the existing imaging elelement line up.

99.9% of audiences don't even know what bokeh means....much less evaluate it in shooting. The frame area in sharp focus is what they instinctively look at...and the whole point of using an adapter in the first place.

Now if I could just design an adapter that could also answer email....
 
Are there any videos by Brevis users showing the results of Cinefuse 2? Cinefuse 1 is too bright on occasions and Cinefuse 3 looks too shallow. I'd imagine Cinefuse 2 to be the best average of those two.
 
I think users would be happier and potential buyers would be very excited if somehow someone could post a recipe to get the kind of Ziess-esque Bokeh that we see in some setups, ie: MacGregors cinemek+whatever nikons he uses (this still mystifies me) or this example which I see as an example of great looking bokeh: (this is the m2 + ziess superspeeds)

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I think even those who don't know exactly what Bokeh means react instinctively to this type of Bokeh as being more professional looking, simply because it looks like practically every image they are used to seeing on high-end television.
 
Matthew Bennett said:
I think users would be happier and potential buyers would be very excited if somehow someone could post a recipe to get the kind of Ziess-esque Bokeh that we see in some setups, ie: MacGregors cinemek+whatever nikons he uses (this still mystifies me)
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Seriously you have to use Zeiss lenses. Thats about it. Good quality Canon and Nikon will give a similar effect but not as clean and even, with a little distortion towards the edges.
 
Yes, Phil Bloom posted a clip using CF2 and the HD200 recently. You can visit: http://www.philipbloom.net/ and navigate to "35mm Shorts 2"

Before anyone comments on vignetting...Phil made it clear that he deliberately zoomed out to include it :-)

Richarge shot at or near minimum focus distance in his CF1 vs CF3 clip, which is about as shallow as you'd every want. Step back a few feet, and DOF is deeper. We're prototyping yet another diffuser option which will be optimized for slower/longer focal length lenses and it will approximate CF2's look.
 
Matthew, are you sure that Zeiss bokeh is really that much better than Nikon? It doesn't seem to add up.
Ken Rockwell describes "good bokeh" as such:
"[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]If you see perfect round disks your lens has neutral bokeh, if you see soft-edged shapes you have good bokeh, and if you see doughnuts you have bad bokeh."
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/bokeh.htm

If you search the web for Nikon stills, I believe you'll find the bokeh looks great. I just shot a few projects (M2 + Nikon) and was really impressed with the bokeh I got.
But you be the judge. Critique my bokeh.

Cheers.

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Great framegrabs you have there, mentatduke.

I believe you shot those at wide open or close to wide open?
 
Thanks Luzer. The 1st one was wide open, The second was one stop down from wide open. Both DVX.

I'm a bigger fan of the hexagonal bokeh myself.
 
the fisrt grab is the "doughnuts" he stalking abou the edges of the discs are more "saturated" than the middle. t makes that splotchy look.

the bottom is better but the shutter blades are visible.
 
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