Raylight 2.02 Released -- Includes Plugin for Vegas!

TwistedLincoln

TwistedLincoln

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I just saw this on DVFilm's Raylight page. It would appear that they have released a new update to Raylight, which includes a plugin for Sony Vegas!

With the plugin, you can now edit MXF files directly from the Vegas timeline. This is huge! While there are still some limitations, it is still an excellent update regardless.

Read about the Vegas Plugin here: http://www.dvfilm.com/raylight/raylightHelp.htm#plugin

Or just checkout the main Raylight page:
http://www.dvfilm.com/raylight/index.htm#below


Thanks again to the great folks at DVFilm for this excellent update!
 
They have indeed, and it is amazing. It makes Vegas work exactly like you'd want, for HVX usage.

It's not still 100% "there" yet; you can't do 1080/24pA pulldown removal on the fly yet, but for 720pN it's just about perfect. Danged if Marcus hasn't pulled a massive rabbit out of his hat on this one. Very, very, very slick.
 
Raylight Website mentions a fix for Vegas 7 "a modification to the Raylight installer was required in order to disable Sony's MXF file reader to allow the Raylight MXF reader to take precedence." but I was wondering if Vegas version 4 is compatible with the new raylight plug-in?
 
Student said:
I was wondering if Vegas version 4 is compatible with the new raylight plug-in?
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Student, not to be harsh, but if you are more then 1 build behind, upgrade now. :tongue:
I don't use Vegas, but you should never allow yourself to be more then one build behind on tools you use or you are missing out.
 
Student said:
Does the Rabbit like all versions of Vegas ?
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I've tested the plugin successfully with Vegas 6 and Vegas 7. It might work with 5.

Pretty sure it will not work with Vegas 4 and earlier versions.

But you can still use Raylight AVI's (without the plugin) with almost any
version of Vegas. Just drop the CONTENTS folder into RayMaker and start editing.
 
It works great ! Great job ! Smart of you Marcus to focus on Sony's Vegas Video for this update. A lot of users of it here (for the PC platform) vs. Adobe Premiere. . ..
 
I just saw this today and got kind of excited because I'm on the verge of getting an HVX. Is this it? Can I stick with Vegas and not miss out on functionality (apart from the aforementioned pulldown issue with 1080p) or image quality? Am I missing something here?
 
Barry_S said:
I just saw this today and got kind of excited because I'm on the verge of getting an HVX. Is this it? Can I stick with Vegas and not miss out on functionality (apart from the aforementioned pulldown issue with 1080p) or image quality? Am I missing something here?
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I've used Vegas 6.0 with Raylight since April '06, and have had no regrets.

You can still use 1080i with pulldown if you convert to a Raylight AVI, or use the intermediary Raylight codec.

Raylight does not degrade quality. The only real downside (until now), is having to wait to convert the MXF files to Raylight AVIs. Now, even that downtime is eliminated.

If you are considering the HVX, Raylight and Vegas are an excellent option. Keep in mind that Raylight will also give you the ability to edit your HVX footage with no loss of quality in any program that supports the high-def resolution.
That means you can take advantage of specialty programs, or older apps without having to re-encode first. This was a huge selling point for me.
 
Barry_S said:
I just saw this today and got kind of excited because I'm on the verge of getting an HVX. Is this it? Can I stick with Vegas and not miss out on functionality (apart from the aforementioned pulldown issue with 1080p) or image quality? Am I missing something here?
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It's almost perfect. You do, indeed, just drag and drop files straight from the card (or your offloaded hard disk partition) right on the timeline, and it just works.

The "almost" comes from the aforementioned limitations, which are things like no 1080/24pA pulldown removal yet. And with Marcus, I absolutely use the word "yet" because that guy is proving to be an unstoppable code-ninja! So I have no doubt he'll get it right.

There are other limitations, that are also spelled out, such as the re-rendering that has to happen when you're using timeline MXF files instead of raylight AVIs. But considering how awesomely awesome this thing is in its very first release, I would expect that any other issues will be cleaned up very quickly. I love EDIUS's P2 integration and its speed, but I certainly like Vegas better as an editor, so the new Raylight is absolutely my favorite software program right now! It lets Vegas work with HVX files the way it was meant to (with the few, current limitations as described in the readme).
 
How about initial impressions of realtime capabilities as compared to EDIUS? How much have you been able to do?

I would love to go back to Vegas. I never used it much, but it felt right for me. Especially as a beginning editor. You could get started immediately, and just under the surface there are a wealth of features, functionality and options for the advanced editors.

Anyways, I went with EDIUS because p2 support and realtime are what's important to me. What's the point of tapeless without those things?

So, how are you feeling about the realtime so far with this update? Definitely on the right track to be able to put mxf files right on the timeline.

Jason
 
EDIUS is way, way ahead for realtime capabilities. Way. Four streams, including effects, with EDIUS; barely one stream for Vegas, on the same computer. I could probably do six streams; I just haven't figured out how to do it.

It's gonna take another generation of computer horsepower improvement (3GHz Quad-core chips maybe?) before Vegas/Raylight can compete with what EDIUS does right now, as far as realtime performance goes.

Now, that's at full quality mind you; of course you can get lots of realtime performance out of Vegas/raylight right now if you set it in draft/red mode.
 
Raylight is AWESOME!!! Thank you Marcus! Thank You raylight! Thank you MXF Gods, my sacrafice was not in vain.
Now if I can just get this chicken blood out of my rug...
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Barry_Green said:
EDIUS is way, way ahead for realtime capabilities. Way. Four streams, including effects, with EDIUS; barely one stream for Vegas, on the same computer. I could probably do six streams; I just haven't figured out how to do it.

It's gonna take another generation of computer horsepower improvement (3GHz Quad-core chips maybe?) before Vegas/Raylight can compete with what EDIUS does right now, as far as realtime performance goes.

Now, that's at full quality mind you; of course you can get lots of realtime performance out of Vegas/raylight right now if you set it in draft/red mode.
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What are the specs on your system?

I'm running a AMD 4400+ X2 Dual Core (2.2ghz) with 4gb of Ram, and two 250gb SATAII drives in a RAID 0. I can edit 720p using Raylight Blue in Vegas in realtime with no issues. I haven't tried 1080i, yet, though. I don't doubt that Edius is better, but Vegas is certainly usable.

(An aside: Even though Quad-Core CPUs are coming in the somewhat near future, we'll all have to switch to a Server version of Windows, as Windows 2000, XP Professional, and even the workstation versions of Vista (ick), will only support up to 2 CPUS. That gets pricy fast...)
 
I'm going to jump on the Raylight/Vegas bandwagon this week if I don't score Edius instead.

Thanks for the update.
 
Core 2 Duo 2.00GHz, 1GB, internal laptop hard disk. I can get one stream of 720/24p at realtime in Raylight. I can get at least four streams of 1080/60i or 720/60p at realtime in EDIUS.
 
I just luuuuv draggin and droppin files when in reality its not possible.. j/k

sounds great.. can't wait for the awesome updates which im sure will come!
 
A new version of the Raylight plugin is now online. If you use it with Vegas 7, this one requires the Vegas 7.0d update. It also works with Vegas 6.

1. You can now use it with DVCPRO50 and DV MXF files, both PAL and NTSC. It sets the aspect ratio and pulldown properties correctly if there is a valid XML file for the clip.

2. It correctly handles 1080i60/24PA and skips over the pulldown frames if you have the XML file. It will also do 720p60 with 3:2 pulldown and DVCPRO50 and DV with 2:3:3:2 pulldown.

3. You get faster playback in Preview quality 1/2 and 1./4 sized windows.

4. The installer no longer tries to disable the Sony MXF file reader, as Sony has now fixed the conflict between the two MXF file plug-ins.

If you had Raylight working with an older version of Vegas 7, install the 7.0d update from Sony and then install the new version of Raylight after that.
 
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