West L.A. / Santa Monica DVX Group

I'm still in guys... see ya'll on the 13th at 2:00pm. And Kelly, I'll leave the shotgun at home just for you :engel017:
 
Pale Rider said:
I'm still in guys... see ya'll on the 13th at 2:00pm. And Kelly, I'll leave the shotgun at home just for you :engel017:
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OK, we have ONE non gun toting commitment.

About four more would make enough for some diversity (but certainly not limited to any maximum number) just need a minimum to make it interesting.
 
I'm not looking for a social club at first. If friendships are built as a side effect, then that is great, but I'm looking for a collaborative group that can share ideas, make suggestions, lend support, etc.
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In addition to what Robert said, here are my two cents:

This is what you want, and that's great. It's your thing and we all certainly have the option to join in or not, I just think it's fair to give you an opinion on this. Again, for you to take or leave, no hard feelings either way.

I've done the "camera gettogether" with still photography forum people. Basically it was a bunch of camera geeks showing each other obscure features of the camera we all owned. Learned a couple things, but it was highly boring and not something many wanted to repeat. We only met once and it was dumb and we ended up having a "reunion" about 3 years later to see what we all were up to, but since we never developed any relationships, it was equally dumb.

Robert and I hung at Hooters as a spur of the moment thing last week, hung out, I had some beers, we talked alot - alot about film, alot about digital, alot about filmmaking, but mostly about ourselves and got to know each other. He is a cool guy and we are going to collaborate. It was after I got to him as a person that I knew I wanted to work with him.

I dont care how much he knows about my camera or what he can do for me, I want to know who he is and what makes him tick and what his passions are and these are all things I dont learn by geeking out hiding behind my camera while he hides behind his.

To be honest, it sounds like you want to meet a bunch of people that can do something for you. To help you. Just want to meet like minded people. If we can help each other in any way then great. If not, I have a new friend that I can either talk about like minded things or anything else.

I have friends I can drink and hang out with and I do this on a regular basis. But they are not into film or tv making.
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That's great. We all need variety in friends. But all of here are into filmmaking and many of us do like to hang out and occasionally drink.

Also, I;m sure Robert will tell you that our get together Wednesday (??... Tuesday??... I cant remember) was nothing like New Years' Eve and there was no drining involved. There is a time for business and a time to get your bearings. I'm not doing business with anyone I dont know unless you pay me well. For a friend I'll bend over backwards.

I'm not suggesting you not have your meeting. I'm just suggesting what you outlined may very well keep you from meeting the exact people you would like to meet. (And I dont mean me by this. I mean any number of people that are reading and being turned off by it.

Just my thoughts. And, regardless or your OCD, you seem decent and I will probably show. I just hope it ends up being more fun than it sounds.

-GageFX
 
I would like to come, since I'm also on the Westside. But I can't on the 13th--have to work the Golden Globes that weekend. Hope I can make another meet in the Santa Monica/Westside area (love this part of town). Also, people should try to bring hot chicks along so we have something to look at instead of just each other's matte boxes and 35mm adapters and stuff. Another suggestion for a later time would be to meet at a cool Santa Monica sidewalk cafe where there's more eye candy likely to be passing by.
 
Oh, I guess I should leave this at home?

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Also, people should try to bring hot chicks along so we have something to look at instead of just each other's matte boxes and 35mm adapters and stuff. Another suggestion for a later time would be to meet at a cool Santa Monica sidewalk cafe where there's more eye candy likely to be passing by.
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Unfortunately Rezfactor, we've already discussed this subject a few pages back. :)
 
Yo Rez, just wondering, which camera is that? Is dat da cinealta yo!

EDIT: Ah nah, da', dat chit looks like a betaSP cam foo'!
 
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GageFX said:
To be honest, it sounds like you want to meet a bunch of people that can do something for you. To help you. GageFX
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If this is all that came across then I did a bad job of articulating myself. Yes, to some degree I am looking to be with people who "can help me" but I thought it was clear that it was for everybody to be helped. I tried to make it clear that getting to know people was also important but that there should also be some kind of goal of improving skills not simply to get drunk or party.

If you go back and read the first responces there was a lot of talk about drinking and having a good time. I was honest that I am looking for people who share a common goal and interest and people who can lend a hand holding a boom or lending a light or a tip on a camera setting and that I would do the same.

You seem to make it that I am into this only for myself and I am very sorry that it came across like that.

Please forgive the rest of this because it is going to sound like a pissing contest and very egotistical (and I can't stand it when people do what I am about to do) but I think it will help put your remarks in context of what you think I am looking for.

I have been working in the entertainment field since 1970 (I started very, very young).

In the past year I have worked on 7 shows including co-producing the largest reuion of film makers and crew of the movie "Woodstock" for the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences. I have served on the Board of Directors of the Producers Guild of America, been a writer, Segment Producer, Researcher, Location Scout, Concert Promoter, Flunky and almost anything else except Fluffer (I even served 8 years in public office an a Governmental official and some consider that porn anyway).

So what, big deal, I know. There are a ton of people in LA who have done 100 times more than me. I'm still a small fish in a very big pond.

But I have no expectation that anybody who would be at these meetings would be in any position to help me with a job or hire me or know anybody who could hire me. My high school track jacket (which I still have and it fits) is older than most of the people who have indicated an interest in being in the group.

It is not that they are not talented, they just have not been around long enough for me to try to hit them up for a job or help in the way you seem to think. And that is not how I work (if it was I would be further along in the biz).

I'm not going to restate for the third time what I was looking for in a group. But I thought it important that I state what I'm not looking for, which you seem to think I am all about.

Now the rest of this is going to sound like I am mad and going to take my ball and go home, and I can't help that, but the truth is I had just logged on to say what is now coming before I read your message. Your message only makes me realize that I was right, before I had the chance to do it.

What I was going to say was that after thinking about this in the shower (water always helps clear the head) it is clear that there is interest in a group, but that there is interest in something different than what I am talkin about (which obviously did not come out right considering your take on what you think I am after).

So I am going to bow out of the planning and agenda setting and let a new leader arise. I suggest you GageFX as the new agender setter and organizer.

I'll monitor this thread and if I can make it to whatever you set up I'll join in with the fun social spirit as well.

I do really appreciate your (and every body else's) feedback and suggestions. It really helped clarify things for me.

Hope all have a wonderfull New Year and that I meet some of you soon. I really mean it:)
 
Kelly, I think we can all appreciate what you're saying. Hopefully our testosterone induced rantings have not made us out to be something we are not either. Before anybody throws in the towel, I say we go ahead with the aforementioned meeting date and see what happens. just my .02 :beer:
 
Pale Rider said:
Kelly, I think we can all appreciate what you're saying. Hopefully our testosterone induced rantings have not made us out to be something we are not either. Before anybody throws in the towel, I say we go ahead with the aforementioned meeting date and see what happens. just my .02 :beer:
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I'm not making any judgements about anybody here, just letting the Democratic process proceed.

Besides, I think you probably wouldn't want me at these meetings. When I was a Politician in Santa Monica I passed a law banning gun dealers from selling weapons out of homes and apartments.

Call me crazy, but having UPS leaving packages of hand guns sitting on the doorstep all day of an apartment or house with a school across the street just seemed like a bad mix.
 
Besides, I think you probably wouldn't want me at these meetings. When I was a Politician in Santa Monica I passed a law banning gun dealers from selling weapons out of homes and apartments.
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Though I'm an avid supporter of gun owner's rights and firearms in general, I would agree with you on that point. That's what we have gun shops and authorized dealers for. No need to do business on the corner of Wilshire and Western. :thumbsup:

Anyway Kelly, I still look forward to meeting you and hope to see you when we meet. Peace.
 
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